On 12/28/00 11:29 PM, "Remy Maucherat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting James Duncan Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sideline this *now*. This will get discussed at the PMC meeting.
Can non-PMC members like myself attend this ?
Yep. It will be an open meeting. Phone dialups are going to be
On 12/29/00 4:33 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry Duncan. I am in a different time zone and I reply to mails by the
date order they were sent. (That is how you got a batch of replies from
me altogether.)
Cool enough. I should have been a bit clearer that I wasn't just trying
on 12/28/2000 11:29 PM, "Remy Maucherat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can non-PMC members like myself attend this ?
Remy
From the announcement as well as posted to the news page:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html
"Even though this is a meeting of the Jakarta PMC, all ASF Members are
Costin, your "elegant" as all to do with "robust".
Hard to understand and maintain code can hardly be robust.
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 20:12
I disagree with you about 2 points
Almost everybody is aware of Costin time limitations and respects the fact
that his work on Tomcat is purely voluntary (he is not paid to do it).
Everybody respects Craig effort - including Costin (it sure looks so from
his postings).
In fact, Jon is the only person trying to turn this into a
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From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 22:32
I wrote _a_lot__ of the code that went into 3.2, and I did more work
than you can imagine, Jon. I did that even if I had a job that is not
tomcat, but xml-xalan.
In fact,
Why don't you concentrate on commiting stuff for 4.0 instead of
picking on Costin and 3.3.
In the last 80 days you have done 6 commits but send 153 other
mails. Even though many of them where ok, many of them where
negative and nonconstructive, like "I keep looking at this code
and
on 12/27/2000 5:23 PM, "Casper Gjerris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the last 80 days you have done 6 commits but send 153 other mails. Even
though many of them where ok, many of them where negative and nonconstructive,
like "I keep looking at this code and realizing how bad it is. :-(" and so
I've been following of the TC4.0/TC3.2/TC3.3 threads for a while in
silence, and wanted to make an observation.
The Tomcat project really has two major types of customers: those who
want an open source servlet container for their production needs
("conservatives"), and those interested in the
on 12/27/2000 10:24 AM, "Kyle F. Downey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been following of the TC4.0/TC3.2/TC3.3 threads for a while in
silence, and wanted to make an observation.
The Tomcat project really has two major types of customers: those who
want an open source servlet container
Since I'm in your "tinkerer" group because I'm following the Catalina path
(like we agreed on), I will state that everything in your "conservative"
group is just as important to me in the "tinkerer" group.
Therefore, your distinct separation of the groups is illogical and moot.
Not
on 12/27/2000 11:40 AM, "Kyle F. Downey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I'm in your "tinkerer" group because I'm following the Catalina path
(like we agreed on), I will state that everything in your "conservative"
group is just as important to me in the "tinkerer" group.
Therefore, your
on 12/27/2000 11:09 AM, "Jon Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The *only* group that has a voice here is the people who have commit access.
No one else has a voice. That is how the ASF works, it isn't a democracy.
Please get used to it.
I take back the part with a "voice". That is totally
on 12/27/2000 11:58 AM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Likely waiting for the release manager at the time (me) to do his job.
Craig indicated at the time that he was able to get relief from his
employer to spend work time on putting out the 3.2 release - something we
all very much
on 12/27/2000 12:59 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nacho and Larry and Henri did most of the hard work in maintaining 3.2,
and it is a _team_ effort. Sam acted as a release manager - doing build
after build, as he was supposed to do. Tomcat 3.2 is not _my_ product, but
Jon, I defend your right to an opinion. Now will you please voluntarily
quit this? I'm asking you, amigo, please don't put out fire with
gasoline. It's not condusive to anything. Have some fraternity,
brutha!
\n
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Jon Stevens wrote:
on 12/27/2000 12:59 PM, "[EMAIL
I wrote _a_lot__ of the code that went into 3.2, and I did more work
than you can imagine, Jon. I did that even if I had a job that is not
tomcat, but xml-xalan.
In fact, you did some of that work during your day time job. :-)
And thanks to my managers for not firing me, I'm lucky to
on 12/28/2000 01:02 AM, "Jon Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 12/27/2000 3:42 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
http://w6.metronet.com/~wjm/tomcat/2000/Aug/index.html#00195
I remember this now as I was late on my response! :-)
Where is Costin's response? He is the
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