Hi Steve, I am jumping into this discussion rather late and I am probably not going to answer any of your questions. I just would like to add that I examined the session persistence and listeners topic also very deep some weeks ago. After all I found it not really practical because the servlet 2.3/2.4 spec is not clear enough about how the sequence the variuos listeners should be called by the container. In my case it was vital that the contextInitialized() method must be called before sessionActivated(). This because in sessionActivated we restore our transient members and for this WE need a fully initialized ServletContext (and preferably also the init() methods of preloaded servlets have been called).
Yoav confirmed me that it is a spec problem and encouraged me to contact the spec group, what I did. They told me that they will address the problem in a next spec. Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]