RE: Opinions

2003-11-04 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >Personally, I think it would be really cool to port procrunw's GUI to >Motif/Gnome/KDE for a jsvcw. However, since I'm not a commons committer, I >can't say how much attention this would get if somebody actually tried to I think that's a great idea, and I'm a commons committer, but I ha

Re: Opinions

2003-11-03 Thread Bill Barker
Actually, commons-daemon consists of two separate components. For *nix, there is jsvc (and, yes, you can build it for Windows using cygwin, but I don't really consider that to be Windows support :), and for Windows there is procrun(w). There are two of them, since the issues involved are totally

Re: Opinions

2003-11-03 Thread Vincent Aumont
No need to be annoyed (or to buy a bigger monitor). This post was about Java's portability and the notion of process ownership. My point was that you can't have native support for this feature because not all OS's support it. That's why you have to include native code for a particular S. I kno

Re: Opinions

2003-11-03 Thread Rodrigo Ruiz
Jejeje, people (in general) should buy better monitors. It looks like they skip more than one line when reading on-line docs ;-) Shapira, Yoav wrote: Howdy, feature natively. Jakarta Commons' deamon is a unix-only solution (I imagine it uses JNI). So its's possible, but not portable. Still

RE: Opinions

2003-11-03 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >feature natively. Jakarta Commons' deamon is a unix-only solution (I >imagine it uses JNI). So its's possible, but not portable. Still an >advanced language... >-Vincent. Aarrggh, Monday morning and I'm already annoyed. Where did you get the idea commons-daemon is unix only? It works

Re: Opinions

2003-11-01 Thread Vincent Aumont
No, you're right. You can make Apache listen on port 80 while running as root because it'll change the process' ownership when it opens a new connection. There is no portable way of doing this in Java; therefore, Hey! And they call it an advanced language? P.S.: One or two trolls are hidin

Re: Opinions

2003-11-01 Thread Bill Barker
The recent port of the 3.3 variable-substitution to Tomcat 5 may very well solve your problems here :). The ports are supposed to move to commons-digester, so should be available in 4.1.30 as well. "Francois JEANMOUGIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hu! It's in

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> Francois, > > can you tell me more about this: > > "Tomcat 4.1.27 bug when running at the MaxConnector limit" http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21763 I have to check the changelog but it should be closed in (freshly released) 4.1.29. François. (Where the hell did 4.1.28

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Tim Craycroft
Weather.com uses Tomcat to handle a very healthy pile of traffic: http://www.pcmag.com/print_article/0,3048,a=38494,00.asp. The article says that 70% of the content is dynamic. It sounds like they use a separate Apache web tier. - Tim Craycroft www.842technology.com -

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Erik Wright
Francois, can you tell me more about this: "Tomcat 4.1.27 bug when running at the MaxConnector limit" I am certainly experiencing this problem and really banging my head against it. Is there documentation about this bug? What is your workaround? I was planning to make the MaxConnector limit real

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >No, I hope to find it the doc before. I'll try. Not so much doc as example. >> What, beyond the above information, would you find most useful in >> understanding jsvc? > >Time :). OK. If you find that a specific document would be helpful, we can work on it together and I'll get into t

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> I assume you've read the JSVC page at > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/daemon/jsvc.html. Yes. > I also assume you've downloaded, installed tomcat5 (5.0.14 > preferably), > so you can see how jsvc is used there. No, I hope to find it the doc before. I'll try. > What, beyond the above in

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >Well, I'd LOVE to try to use jsvc and make the appropriate documentation >for it, I just CAN'T see where I should declare them, use them, and so on. >I suppose it replaces Coyote Connectors, and I should try to define the >jsvc classes there (in server.xml), but, it is really to thin for

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> Your question, and my answer regarding ready for production, was for > commons-daemon itself. I also happen to believe* tomcat5 is fine: the > only reason it's beta and not stable is the specs aren't out. > > * = I voted for beta, not stable, for this reason. OK. > Sorry I couldn't help you

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >> >Hu! It's in early developments or is it suitable for production ? >> >> It's ready for production. People are already using it in production >> with tomcat 5. Of course, I'm biased ;) > >Well, there is that beta flag in front of tomcat5 that tell me that your >opinion is more than bi

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> >Hu! It's in early developments or is it suitable for production ? > > It's ready for production. People are already using it in production > with tomcat 5. Of course, I'm biased ;) Well, there is that beta flag in front of tomcat5 that tell me that your opinion is more than biased :). Of

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >> Does anyone have an opinion of Tomcat running in a very high traffic >> environment, let's say, 100K - 500K unique visits/day? We've been doing it for a long time, since tomcat 4.0.1. >The other thing you lose is performance. You rarely want Tomcat to serve >your static content. All i

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >Hu! It's in early developments or is it suitable for production ? It's ready for production. People are already using it in production with tomcat 5. Of course, I'm biased ;) >And, in a sysadmin point of view, what does that means: >"There two ways to use jsvc: via a Class that implem

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Christopher Schultz
Robert, Does anyone have an opinion of Tomcat running in a very high traffic environment, let's say, 100K - 500K unique visits/day? If you have that many visits (with significant session overhead and/or HTTPS requests), I'd suggest using multiple machines with a load-balancer. But there's no rea

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> yes, you lack quite some features if you stick to those. > but just imagine the features you lack by not knowing java. > I don't think anyone will dare to rewrite the C code of apache to > change its behaviour. I feel it's a week point of apache :-) Well, I think I'm a shameless troller. Anywa

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Ruiz
Also, depending on the amout of static content in your webapps, having an Apache as the front-end can perform better than a standalone tomcat. But this depends on numbers you have to get by yourself. Experimenting uses to be the best way ;-) Rodrigo Vincent Aumont wrote: François, Oh, and l

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Pike
Hi It's a little thin, but what there is is at http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/daemon/ You can do Apache administration without knowing C or PHP or perl. But you can't do tomcat administration without knowing java. I feel it a week point of Jakarta (perhaps am I wrong, it's just a feeling). bu

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> It's a little thin, but what there is is at > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/daemon/ Hu! It's in early developments or is it suitable for production ? And, in a sysadmin point of view, what does that means: "There two ways to use jsvc: via a Class that implements the Daemon interface or v

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Bill Barker
It's a little thin, but what there is is at http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/daemon/ "Francois JEANMOUGIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Right and wrong ;-). Tomcat 5 ships with the (source for) commons- > daemon, > which gives Tomcat this same capability on *ni

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> Right and wrong ;-). Tomcat 5 ships with the (source for) commons- > daemon, > which gives Tomcat this same capability on *nix boxes. Of course, > commons-daemon works with Tomcat 4.1 and Tomcat 3.3 as well (as well > as any > other Java programs that need this feature). Oh. Could you please

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> No, you're right. You can make Apache listen on port 80 while running > as root because it'll change the process' ownership when it opens a > new > connection. There is no portable way of doing this in Java; therefore, Hey! And they call it an advanced language? > you have to run Tomcat as r

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Bill Barker
"Vincent Aumont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > François, > > > >Oh, and last but not least, I didn't find a privilege separation method in tomcat (like in apache or ssh or postfix, or...). Perhaps am I wrong, but, if you want tomcat to run in unpriviledge environmen

Re: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Vincent Aumont
François, Oh, and last but not least, I didn't find a privilege separation method in tomcat (like in apache or ssh or postfix, or...). Perhaps am I wrong, but, if you want tomcat to run in unpriviledge environment, you have to make it bind to a public port (say 8080). I use iptables to redirect c

RE: Opinions

2003-10-31 Thread Francois JEANMOUGIN
> -Message d'origine- > De : Robert Charbonneau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : vendredi 31 octobre 2003 06:17 > À : Tomcat Users Mailing List > Objet : Opinions > > Does anyone have an opinion of Tomcat running in a very high traffic > environment, let's say, 100K - 500K unique vis

RE: Opinions of available Tomcat books

2003-01-13 Thread Geoff Peters
rth the money. Geoff -Original Message- From: Subir Sengupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:15 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Opinions of available Tomcat books I found the James Goodwill book much too basic. You could learn as much f

RE: Opinions of available Tomcat books

2003-01-10 Thread Subir Sengupta
I found the James Goodwill book much too basic. You could learn as much from the Tomcat docs. -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:41 AM To: tomcat user Subject: Opinions of available Tomcat books I've been thinking about picking a

RE: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread dave . prout
ll be on Openwave's Web Site. Their documentation is good. Dave -Original Message- From: Dr. Evil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 October 2001 10:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML > What do you mean by "The &

Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread Dr. Evil
> What do you mean by "The 'user-agent' header always contains the string "UP. > Browser" > > I bet you 100 pounds that it doesn't. A Nokia phone on a Nokia or CMG > Gateway will not have "UP" anywhere. Right, I looked into that and UP.browser is a particular kind of browser. Not all mobiles w

Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread simon
in the UK, Dave ;-) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: RE: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML > What do you mean by "The 'user-agent' header always contains the string

RE: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread dave . prout
PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 October 2001 10:37 To: tomcat-user Subject: Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML It's probably easier to spot the WAP browser rather than the other way around. They send all sorts of goodies in their headers. The 'user-agent' header always c

Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread Brendan McKenna
Hi, You could also check the accept request header for an explicit mention of wml, which should only be present in a WAP/WML browser. Brendan -- Brendan McKennaEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Development Strategist

Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread simon
It's probably easier to spot the WAP browser rather than the other way around. They send all sorts of goodies in their headers. The 'user-agent' header always contains the string "UP.Browser" so you could search for that. WAP browsers usually send the 'accept' header as well so you could use th

Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread Jim Cheesman
> > > >I am working on a site where the same URL will be hit by both WML and >HTML browsers. Fortunately, with Tomcat, it's very easy to have a >controller servlet which takes all incoming requests and decides to >forward them to various processors. The problem is, how should I make >this servl

RE: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread dave . prout
Dr. Evil, I use exactly the method you suggest. I have a servlet that checks the first four characters of the user-agent. If it is 'Mozi', I call a JSP to deal with an HTML request. If not then I assume WML and have different JSPs for 'MOT-', 'SIE-', 'R380', 'Noki', etc. Dave -

Re: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML

2001-10-23 Thread Drasko . Kokic
Why don't you simple use Cocoon for this purpose? xml.apache.org/cocoon "Dr. Evil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 23.10.2001 11:16:31 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Opinions on detecting browser type for WML vs. HTML I am working on a site where the s

Re: Opinions on Websphere?

2000-11-21 Thread Matt Jackson
"Daniel A. Theobald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Questions: > > 1. How does websphere compare to other portal creation tools? Are there > others you would recommend looking at? I wouldn't have said it was a portal tool. > > 2. Many of our components currently are written using java 1.3.