RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
- From: Michael Coughlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:30 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)? Thanks again for the reply, Tim. As you can tell, I am a little confused although it's becoming somewhat more clear. J2EE

RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Coughlan
Thanks for the great reply. You are mixing several different things: I agree. Sorry to be so thick, everyone. I hope I am not too far off topic with this conversation thread, but I simply don't understand how JBoss differs from the J2EE SDK. - J2EE is a spec that consists of several

Re: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread James Black
Michael Coughlan wrote: I agree. Sorry to be so thick, everyone. I hope I am not too far off topic with this conversation thread, but I simply don't understand how JBoss differs from the J2EE SDK. There is a specification for J2EE, and then Sun makes an implementation of that specification,

RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
- From: Michael Coughlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)? So, why heck would I want it if I have the J2EE SDK and other fun Sun dowloads? Doesn't Sun offer *thee original* implementation

RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Coughlan
(J2EE SDK the is not intended as a tool for production) Thanks for the post. Can you please clarify? Are you saying that the J2EE SDK is not production quality while JBoss is? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Coughlan
Perhaps this will help you decide which application server to use. http://www.theserverside.com/reviews/matrix.jsp This Matrix is excellent. Thanks, James. I noticed that J2EE x Tomcat was not checked off? For my project, I will need servlets with J2EE, JMS etc. Why can't I simply use

Re: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread James Black
Michael Coughlan wrote: It seems to me that I might want to blow away my Tomcat install and unpack JBoss (with Tomcat). You should look at what you will need, in terms of features, and what you can spend, and then decide. Sun's implementation also uses Tomcat as do at least some of the other

Re: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-22 Thread James Black
Michael Coughlan wrote: Thanks for the post. Can you please clarify? Are you saying that the J2EE SDK is not production quality while JBoss is? I believe the reference implementation is not meant for production, from Sun, but for $2k or $10k/cpu you can buy one that is.

Re: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-21 Thread Tim Funk
Tomcat is a servlet (and jsp) container. Thats it, nothing else. Zippo. JBoss is a full J2EE server which offers all the J2EE services (and one of those things being tomcat) -Tim Michael Coughlan wrote: This might seem like an embarrassing question (or a poor post for the Tomcat-user list),

RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Coughlan
Thanks for the reply. Tomcat is a servlet (and jsp) container. Thats it, nothing else. Zippo. Understood. Although Tomcat seems to be more robust than Apache in tracking sessions and saving state, which is what App Servers did in the past. JBoss is a full J2EE server which offers all the

Re: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-21 Thread Sebastian Ryszard Kruk
Two words man: full J2EE ;-) Dnia 12/21/2003 09:32 PM, Uz.ytkownik Michael Coughlan napisa?: This might seem like an embarrassing question (or a poor post for the Tomcat-user list), but why would a developer want to download JBoss with Tomcat bundled instead of Tomcat alone? Does the Jakarta

Re: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-21 Thread Tim Funk
J2EE includes JMS, EJB, and a bunch of other acronyms. java.sun.com should have a whitepaper about j2ee and everything it can do. Most of the acronyms are enablers to solve some business problem. (Other acronyms sometime feel like they just allow consultants to make a lot of money ;) ) There

RE: Why JBoss (and Tomcat)?

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Coughlan
Thanks again for the reply, Tim. As you can tell, I am a little confused although it's becoming somewhat more clear. J2EE includes JMS, EJB, and a bunch of other acronyms. java.sun.com should have a whitepaper about j2ee and everything it can do. I think I can imagine that whitepaper. This