Hi Woodchuck,
Am Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2005 21:46 schrieb Woodchuck:
another (simple) way to think about the difference is that Apache
serves static web pages, whereas Tomcat *can* do some server-side
processing and serve dynamic web pages.
all else being equal (and with no mods installed on
Hi -
thanks for that, I hadn't realised that the servlet-name default would
still work in my webapp's web.xml. So I can reverse the logic as you
suggest. Works great.
Tim
Parsons Technical Services wrote:
Look here:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/default-servlet.html
If you
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I think there is not much question that the Apache server is far more
efficient serving static html. Is there really any issue on that? If
so, things sure have changed. I thought the comparison was like 5 to
1. Is that no longer true
this helps,
Fritz
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Apache is not a J2EE container - you are off-roading on this one ;-)
Thanks. That was pretty much what I wanted to find out
(Er, and sorry I just realised I posted __some__ of this as part of a
question on the list last week, but the question I have is now posed
more concretely and wasn't answered then)!
Tim Diggins wrote:
This has been a great and informative thread... I'm wondering now, how
to accomplish what I
See comment in message.
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(Er, and sorry I just realised I posted __some__ of this as part of a
question on the list last week
Subject: Re: Tomcat vs Apache
(Er, and sorry I just realised I posted __some__ of this as part of a
question on the list last week, but the question I have is now posed more
concretely and wasn't answered then)!
Tim Diggins wrote:
This has been a great and informative thread... I'm wondering now
I've been working with Tomcat for a while now, but I haven't messed with
Apache yet. Could someone explain or point me to something explaining
the differences between Tomcat and Apache? I have a large applet hosted
on Tomcat, and am investigating using Apache instead. Is this feasable?
TIA.
I think I need to ask a question before offering any information.
When you say applet, do you mean a java applet that runs in a client's
browser window? Or, do you have a web application comprised of
servlets/jsps (or some analogous configuration)?
-Anthony
On May 18, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Chris
If all you're doing is serve static pages, both are equivalent.
However, if you ever need dynamic content, either client or server
side, for example a page whose content is extracted from a database,
or a form for which you need to record the values, you need some kind
of intelligence.
Apache is not a J2EE container - you are off-roading on this one ;-)
Michael
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Subject: Tomcat vs Apache
I've been working with Tomcat for a while
I think I need to ask a question before offering any information.
When you say applet, do you mean a java applet that runs in a client's
browser window? Or, do you have a web application comprised of
servlets/jsps (or some analogous configuration)?
We have a large java applet that runs in the
If all you're doing is serve static pages, both are equivalent.
However, if you ever need dynamic content, either client or server
side, for example a page whose content is extracted from a database, or
a form for which you need to record the values, you need some kind of
intelligence.
Apache is not a J2EE container - you are off-roading on this one ;-)
Thanks. That was pretty much what I wanted to find out. BTW, I keep
hearing of people using Apache and Tomcat in conjunction. How does that
work?
Chris
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Chris:
I guess that the applet is just a static file that is served to the
client's browser window. Therefore, ANY web server would work just
fine. There are no appreciable differences between Tomcat and Apache
for your requirements so far. They act very similarly when serving
static content.
Chris wrote:
Ah, okay. The only reason we were considering switching to Apache was
to possibly improve the performance of our Java applet.
The performance of the applet should have nothing to do with the server
that delivers it, unless perhaps the server happens to be downloading
slower than
On 5/18/05, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If all you're doing is serve static pages, both are equivalent.
However, if you ever need dynamic content, either client or server
side, for example a page whose content is extracted from a database, or
a form for which you need to record the
of customers. Some need CGI, some need PHP, and
some need J2EE.
I hope this helps,
Fritz
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From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Tomcat vs Apache
Apache is not a J2EE container - you are off-roading
The dynamic aspect of Tomcat is used to write HTML dynamically. This
is unrelated to the service of applets. If all you are doing is
serving an applet, you don't need Tomcat, as your HTML is static. I
don't know what some of the other replies mean, but this much is
clear.
On 5/18/05, Anthony
For my own education, what the heck is off-roading?
On 5/18/05, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apache is not a J2EE container - you are off-roading on this one ;-)
Thanks. That was pretty much what I wanted to find out. BTW, I keep
hearing of people using Apache and Tomcat in conjunction.
I think there is not much question that the Apache server is far more
efficient serving static html. Is there really any issue on that? If
so, things sure have changed. I thought the comparison was like 5 to
1. Is that no longer true?
On 5/18/05, Jason Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
hihi,
another (simple) way to think about the difference is that Apache
serves static web pages, whereas Tomcat *can* do some server-side
processing and serve dynamic web pages.
all else being equal (and with no mods installed on Apache such as
CGI/SSI/PHP), everyone visiting an Apache hosted
Ah, okay. The only reason we were considering switching to Apache was
to possibly improve the performance of our Java applet.
However the Apache Web Server may well have better performance when
serving large files, I don't believe I have seen any benchmarks
dealing with large files only smaller
According to benchmarks posted a few months ago, depending on your
circumstances, that may no longer be true (or it may even be the
reverse). I don't have the url, but I am sure someone else does, or
search for the benchmark site.
On May 18, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Dakota Jack wrote:
I think
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Subject: Re: Tomcat vs Apache
I think there is not much question that the Apache server is
far more efficient serving static html
From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tomcat vs Apache
I think there is not much question that the Apache server is far more
efficient serving static html. Is there really any issue on that? If
so, things sure have changed. I thought the comparison was like 5 to
1
Very interesting. Thanks for making the effort and sharing your results.
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Nice. I'm bookmarking this post for the future. 'Nuf said. Thanks, Yoav!
John
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Howdy,
Of course not. I'm only regergitating stuff I have read. But I have
seen
it from several different sources, so I took it as truth. Do you have
benchmarks to prove otherwise?
It
It probably bears repeating the link to Craig's analysis of Apache vs
Tomcat standalone and the procedure for determining what is best FOR
YOUR APPLICATION:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-userm=104874913017036w=2
BTW - as somebody alluded to earlier, this link was found through the
FAQ,
Howdy,
Of course not. I'm only regergitating stuff I have read. But I have
seen
it from several different sources, so I took it as truth. Do you have
benchmarks to prove otherwise?
It could be the sources you read are outdated. I don't question their
accuracy at the time they came out,
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Subject: Re: SSL in tomcat vs. apache
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Lloyd Meinholz wrote:
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:33:16 -0500
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Subject: SSL in tomcat vs. apache
Does anyone have any comparison facts or opinions on the difference in
running SSL in apache vs. SSL in tomcat (Java)? We're running on Sun boxes
and using JDK 1.4.1 if that matters (other than JSSE is built-in).
Most of our sites are dynamic, but we are currently using a web server for
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Lloyd Meinholz wrote:
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Does anyone have any comparison facts or opinions
I just want to serve servlets, I dont have any static web content.
Performance wise can tomcat serve http requests as good as apache. Or should
I frontend tomcat with an apache server.
Anybody involved in such decisions ?
Thanks
Murat
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Murat Bicer wrote:
I just want to serve servlets, I dont have any static web content.
Performance wise can tomcat serve http requests as good as apache. Or should
I frontend tomcat with an apache server.
Anybody involved in such decisions ?
Thanks
Murat
I also
hi
What is the difference between tomcat-iis and tomcat-apache integration?
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I just upgraded from Tomcat 3.2.x to 4.0. I'm using it with Apache
1.3.19 and the webapp module to connect. I've noticed something very
odd though...
It seems as though Tomcat is handling all the errors? Any error I get
is output by Tomcat itself (a 404 error, a 500 error, etc). In Tomcat
, October 25, 2001 1:03 PM
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Subject: Tomcat vs. Apache/Tomcat
Can someone explain the advantages of using Tomcat
with Apache, as opposed to using Tomcat as both web
server and app server?
Thanks,
Tim
If you look back through the list archives I think you'll find this topic
has been beaten to death several times.
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From: Timothy Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:03 PM
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Subject: Tomcat vs. Apache/Tomcat
Can
Can someone explain the advantages of using Tomcat
with Apache, as opposed to using Tomcat as both web
server and app server?
Thanks,
Tim
Hello,
For one data point, I am on a project using Tomcat4-b7 (haven't admitted
latest Tomcat into project yet) and seeing pretty good performance.
Under a constant load from 3 machines running an automated abuse test
against a dual PIII-733, tomcat delivered 140page/sec avg. for about
a million
Hello,
I've just been reading about the new I/O api in Java 1.4. If it is as good as it
looks, Tomcat wont need Apache at all in the near future. Tomcat should be able to
deliver static pages efficiently enough on its own. Very exciting. Can't wait for
the Java 1.4 version of Tomcat.
Hi !
Apache is faster then Tomcat, and in some documents I have also found
information that Tomcat should be less robust then Apache.
I am running Tomcat locally on my computer and so far I have not noticed any
performance problems, I am developing an intranet application that use alot
of JSP
al" systems.
Salu2. Jose.
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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: TOMCAT vs Apache
Hi Jose, Thanks a lot for the prompt reply..but could u elaborate a little
further!
Thanks,
Chandra
Hi..
I have a question that I need help in. When I can execute both JSP and
Servlets using the Tomcat Webserver..why do I need the Apcahe server??
Chandra
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Subject: TOMCAT vs Apache
Hi..
I have a question that I need help in. When I can execute both JSP and
Servlets using the Tomcat Webserver..why do I need the Apcahe server??
Chandra
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1)Tomcat is not robust
2)"horses for courses", Let tomcat do, what it is good in - "Serving
servlets/JSP pages and apache serve static pages.
for more details try and read the FAQ at http://apache.org
ramesh
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Greetings all,
I am having trouble getting
authorization to work for a web-app in Tomcat. I would appreciate any
advise I can get. Here is my case:
I am using Apache 1.3.12 Tomcat 3.2 (I also
want 3.1 to work)
I have a webapp deployed entirely under
Tomcat/webapps/ecims
I want user
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