:-) > > Right there with you Steve :-) > > "Imagine aaaaaaaaaaaaall the peopleeee..." > > Manos > > > > Steve Beech wrote: > > >Smile and the world smiles with you.... ;o) > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Pae Choi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: 28 November 2002 00:12 > >To: Tomcat Users List > >Subject: Re: [OT] - Let's be nice -- Re: How do I integrate my CLASSPATH > >on Tomcat? > > > > > >You listen up. You should know who started this first. > >And mind your own business. > > > > > >Pae > > > > > > > > > > > >>Pae, you are sure a sensitive person. I, for one, do not appreciate this > >>nastiness in a public place. Please try to "play well with others". And, > >>to be fair, I certainly have had my moments too. > >> > >>At 11:41 AM 11/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >> > >> > >>>First, let me copy the initial inquriy to refresh your memory. > >>> > >>>"I'm wondering how I should do to make tomcat use the paths that are in > >>>my CLASSPATH?" > >>> > >>>Does it say or imply to move JARs or packages to a specific > >>>location? The question was simple and the my reply included > >>>a simple suggestion according to the inquiry. > >>> > >>>And back to your comments. Look back about 5 years ago. Did > >>>you envisoned all the technologies and standards what's going on > >>>now? What make so sure what's going on will stay same in next > >>>5 to 10 years later? > >>> > >>>Also, not every user of TC develop the app to sell and consider > >>>all the factors you mentioned. A matter fact, most of products from > >>>your company, Millennium ChemInformatics, do no even have the > >>>basic concept of n-tier architecture nor grid-level, distributed > >>> > >>> > >computing. > > > > > >>>If you are so well-planned and -built the outstanding product(if there > >>>is any) let me know, I will not mind given you some lessons of > >>>well structured architecture and success characteristics in marketability > >>> as well as other factors. > >>> > >>>Last, AFAIK, your compnay is losing the money than making it. Perhaps, > >>>you contributed that too? > >>> > >>> > >>>Pae > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:17 AM > >>>Subject: RE: How do I integrate my CLASSPATH on Tomcat? > >>> > >>> > >>>Howdy, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Long run? I've been watching TC a long enough and have changed > >>>>a number of times the scheme of including the CLASSPTH. In the > >>>>long run, are you absolutely sure what is going right now will be > >>>>stay same ... say in next 5 years? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I'm sure tomcat will implement the servlet specification standard, yes. > >>>I'm sure the servlet specification standard will not mention anything > >>>about $CLASSPATH in server-specific startup scripts, yes. /WEB-INF/lib > >>>is the standard way to go. It's the only way to go if you don't want to > >>>change scripts when changing servers. If you had put the libs there > >>>when using tomcat 3.x, you wouldn't have had to move them when moving to > >>>4.x, etc. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>What's the time frame for "the long run" mean? More than 5 years? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Any time other than the initial beginner setup. You want to be able to > >>>setup from scratch automatically, e.g. using an ant script. You want a > >>>3rd party person to be able to deploy your app. That's why the spec is > >>>there. That's why the idea of a .war file exists. > >>> > >>>Sure, you could write detailed instructions and require a specific > >>>version of tomcat with your modifications to tomcat's startup script, > >>>but good luck getting people to use (much less buy) your app then ;) > >>> > >>>Obviously it's your app, your company (or university or whatever), so > >>>it's your call. In my personal experience, every place I've worked and > >>>every boss I've had always insisted on portability and > >>>standards-compliance as much as reasonably possible. It's saved us many > >>>times. Now I insist on the same with all the developers that work for > >>>me, all the projects I'm responsible for, etc. And if I had a dollar > >>>for every time it's paid off, I'd be rich ;) > >>> > >>>Yoav Shapira > >>>Millennium ChemInformatics > >>> > >>>-- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>> > >>> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>> > >>> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>Micael > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain > >>information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally > >>privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the > >>individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as > >>indicated above. 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