RE: DNS NAMES
Not to be argumentative, but as micael said, but there are multiple answers to the original poster's question, depending on whether you want to be figurative or literal. The literal answer is no for the reasons you and others have posted. The figurative answer, that is, the answer for what was probably the poster's original intended question, is yes. You CAN use www.host.com/some-file.htm in DNS if you use what is known as a web forwarding or cloaking service. For example, ZoneEdit.com does this. You can equate www.some-host.com to www.some-other-host.com/some-file.html and the end user will never see the /some-file.html. Technically, this isn't DNS, it's a proxy, but again, it comes down to whether you want to answer the original question literally or investigate the intent behind the original question. John -Original Message- From: Sexton, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:58 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES Let me really cut right down to the chase here: Valid characters in a domain name are: a-z 0-9 (digits) - (Hyphen) . (Period) Look at the RFC, and read the BNF definition for an identifier. -Original Message- From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 December, 2002 4:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES But don't be misled. Noel is giving you direct answer to the way you put the question, and I suspect, as others before me have, that you don't mean the question the way you are expressing it. You would be better served saying why you want to do this, because you are really going to a lot of this and that over something that seems to be really unimportant. What you want to do probably can be done, if you state what the real objective is. Of course, making whatever into a DNS name is not your goal, we can surmise. Micael At 06:03 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. As I said, the DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. If you want the short answer, it is: NO, by definition. If you want to know WHY: DNS is DOMAIN Naming System. The /final is a local resource, not the domain. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DNS NAMES
Hi all, I have a general Doubt. Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. please confirm soon ..urgent thanks in advance Laxmikanth * Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential / privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
Hi Noel, I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential / privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS NAMES
* Laxmikanth M.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1208 11:08]: Hi Noel, I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. No. But you can create a context called /final on www.test.com, which will recieve requests for that URL. (Although test.com is taken :) ) Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
No, it is not possible. www.test.com is a hostname, equal to an IP address. /final can never work in DNS, / is an illegal hostname character. Since this is completely off topic, you should RTFM on the Internet Domain Name System, then come back with a Tomcat question. John -Original Message- From: Laxmikanth M.S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:08 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES Hi Noel, I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject:RE: DNS NAMES Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential / privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
You need to understand that http://www.test.com/test/test.htm is a compound name, meaning that it covers differing naming systems/applications. test.com comes from the the internet naming strategy and is read, as a tree structure, from right to left. However, the file test/test.htm comes from a file naming strategy and is read, as a tree structure, from left to right. You, essentially, are trying to combine two disparate but cooperative naming systems. Micael At 08:45 AM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: No, it is not possible. www.test.com is a hostname, equal to an IP address. /final can never work in DNS, / is an illegal hostname character. Since this is completely off topic, you should RTFM on the Internet Domain Name System, then come back with a Tomcat question. John -Original Message- From: Laxmikanth M.S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:08 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES Hi Noel, I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject:RE: DNS NAMES Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential / privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
True, but there are many services out there that provide DNS-based URL forwarding, where some.url.com can be forwarded to some.other-url.com/file.html. So, technically, it *is* possible to set up DNS for http://www.test.com/test/test.htm; but doing so requires a special service that supersedes DNS, a URL forwarding service. Such special services typically require a fee. DNS in and of itself cannot resolve URLs that have filenames in them. John -Original Message- From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:08 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES You need to understand that http://www.test.com/test/test.htm is a compound name, meaning that it covers differing naming systems/applications. test.com comes from the the internet naming strategy and is read, as a tree structure, from right to left. However, the file test/test.htm comes from a file naming strategy and is read, as a tree structure, from left to right. You, essentially, are trying to combine two disparate but cooperative naming systems. Micael At 08:45 AM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: No, it is not possible. www.test.com is a hostname, equal to an IP address. /final can never work in DNS, / is an illegal hostname character. Since this is completely off topic, you should RTFM on the Internet Domain Name System, then come back with a Tomcat question. John -Original Message- From: Laxmikanth M.S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:08 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES Hi Noel, I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject:RE: DNS NAMES Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential / privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
There is much that could be said, if we decide to talk precisely. A URL, for example, is quite different than a URI, etc. But, that would take us beyond the confines of tomcat-user. That is unfortunate, because this is an interesting conversation. Too often these discussions are not precise, and ill-educate newbies like myself. At 11:18 AM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: True, but there are many services out there that provide DNS-based URL forwarding, where some.url.com can be forwarded to some.other-url.com/file.html. So, technically, it *is* possible to set up DNS for http://www.test.com/test/test.htm; but doing so requires a special service that supersedes DNS, a URL forwarding service. Such special services typically require a fee. DNS in and of itself cannot resolve URLs that have filenames in them. John -Original Message- From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:08 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES You need to understand that http://www.test.com/test/test.htm is a compound name, meaning that it covers differing naming systems/applications. test.com comes from the the internet naming strategy and is read, as a tree structure, from right to left. However, the file test/test.htm comes from a file naming strategy and is read, as a tree structure, from left to right. You, essentially, are trying to combine two disparate but cooperative naming systems. Micael At 08:45 AM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: No, it is not possible. www.test.com is a hostname, equal to an IP address. /final can never work in DNS, / is an illegal hostname character. Since this is completely off topic, you should RTFM on the Internet Domain Name System, then come back with a Tomcat question. John -Original Message- From: Laxmikanth M.S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:08 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES Hi Noel, I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject:RE: DNS NAMES Is it possible to create a DNS Name like www.test.com/final. The DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. The www, by convention only, implies a protocol of HTTP and a port of 80. But if you are unfamilar with the Domain Name System, that is probably just going to confuse you. see also: http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/ --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential / privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above
RE: DNS NAMES
I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. As I said, the DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. If you want the short answer, it is: NO, by definition. If you want to know WHY: DNS is DOMAIN Naming System. The /final is a local resource, not the domain. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
But don't be misled. Noel is giving you direct answer to the way you put the question, and I suspect, as others before me have, that you don't mean the question the way you are expressing it. You would be better served saying why you want to do this, because you are really going to a lot of this and that over something that seems to be really unimportant. What you want to do probably can be done, if you state what the real objective is. Of course, making whatever into a DNS name is not your goal, we can surmise. Micael At 06:03 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. As I said, the DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. If you want the short answer, it is: NO, by definition. If you want to know WHY: DNS is DOMAIN Naming System. The /final is a local resource, not the domain. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
Let me really cut right down to the chase here: Valid characters in a domain name are: a-z 0-9 (digits) - (Hyphen) . (Period) Look at the RFC, and read the BNF definition for an identifier. -Original Message- From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 December, 2002 4:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES But don't be misled. Noel is giving you direct answer to the way you put the question, and I suspect, as others before me have, that you don't mean the question the way you are expressing it. You would be better served saying why you want to do this, because you are really going to a lot of this and that over something that seems to be really unimportant. What you want to do probably can be done, if you state what the real objective is. Of course, making whatever into a DNS name is not your goal, we can surmise. Micael At 06:03 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. As I said, the DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. If you want the short answer, it is: NO, by definition. If you want to know WHY: DNS is DOMAIN Naming System. The /final is a local resource, not the domain. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS NAMES
That only cuts to the chase you are thinking of George. It is correct and neat and all that, but does not respond to what the question really must be. At least I would be amazed if the writer actually is asking about or worried about this. It would be nice to know what the person is trying to achieve, then we can give them an answer related to that. The chase depends upon what the hunter wants, not what we want. Nice to see this list though. ///8-) At 04:57 PM 12/4/2002 -0700, you wrote: Let me really cut right down to the chase here: Valid characters in a domain name are: a-z 0-9 (digits) - (Hyphen) . (Period) Look at the RFC, and read the BNF definition for an identifier. -Original Message- From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 December, 2002 4:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: DNS NAMES But don't be misled. Noel is giving you direct answer to the way you put the question, and I suspect, as others before me have, that you don't mean the question the way you are expressing it. You would be better served saying why you want to do this, because you are really going to a lot of this and that over something that seems to be really unimportant. What you want to do probably can be done, if you state what the real objective is. Of course, making whatever into a DNS name is not your goal, we can surmise. Micael At 06:03 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote: I want to create a DNS name itself like thatis it possible. As I said, the DNS name is www.test.com. The /final is not part of the DNS. If you want the short answer, it is: NO, by definition. If you want to know WHY: DNS is DOMAIN Naming System. The /final is a local resource, not the domain. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Micael --- This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
