Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..
I did read the licence but .. can I use sdk or jre in a commercial environnment (not just research developpment but production environment .. ) ? Simple question .. and it was not clear to me in the licence .. Eriam Bill Barker a écrit: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 + From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue .. I just did right now .. One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav experience with it .. Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence) and if yes what parts ? Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs) include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to the Sun binary license: * activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs) * jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs) * jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs) * jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs) * mail.jar (JavaMail APIs) * jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs) The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM. Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software License. Exceptions include: * mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included) Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for free ? As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license. In the case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to click through to download it. You DID read that, didn't you? ;-) Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ? I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably. There is at least one of the developers who tests against kaffe and gcj. Unfortunately for you, he doesn't spend a lot of his time on the 4.x version. According to his reports, at least at one point, Tomcat 4 ran fine with kaffe and gcj (and commented that gcj didn't really beat HotSpot :). The only way to know for sure is to test your application against it. Eriam Craig Subir Sengupta a écrit: Have you looked here http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html -Original Message- From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi all .. licence issue .. I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ? Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ? Is it GPL ? Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or my company's brand ? If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence allows that kind of deals .. Am I right ? Thanks for any tips .. Eriam Schaffter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ce courrier a ete considere comme non infecte par les virus connu de notre outil de detection. Soyez cependant prudent avec les pieces jointes. Merci. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ce courrier a ete considere comme non infecte par les virus connu de notre outil de detection. Soyez cependant prudent avec les pieces jointes. Merci. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..
The license states : 1. LICENSE TO USE. Sun grants you a non-exclusive and non-transferable license for the internal use only of the accompanying software... This seems to me to be all the permission you need to use the SDK within your company. In addition, there is language that allows you to Distribute within your company or with your product binarys as long as : (i) you distribute the Redistributables complete and unmodified... So, read it real close once again. --- Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did read the licence but .. can I use sdk or jre in a commercial environnment (not just research developpment but production environment .. ) ? Simple question .. and it was not clear to me in the licence .. Eriam Bill Barker a écrit: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 + From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue .. I just did right now .. One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav experience with it .. Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence) and if yes what parts ? Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs) include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to the Sun binary license: * activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs) * jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs) * jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs) * jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs) * mail.jar (JavaMail APIs) * jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs) The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM. Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software License. Exceptions include: * mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included) Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for free ? As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license. In the case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to click through to download it. You DID read that, didn't you? ;-) Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ? I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably. There is at least one of the developers who tests against kaffe and gcj. Unfortunately for you, he doesn't spend a lot of his time on the 4.x version. According to his reports, at least at one point, Tomcat 4 ran fine with kaffe and gcj (and commented that gcj didn't really beat HotSpot :). The only way to know for sure is to test your application against it. Eriam Craig Subir Sengupta a écrit: Have you looked here http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html -Original Message- From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi all .. licence issue .. I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ? Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ? Is it GPL ? Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or my company's brand ? If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence allows that kind of deals .. Am I right ? Thanks for any tips .. Eriam Schaffter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === message truncated === __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all .. licence issue ..
I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ? Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ? Is it GPL ? Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or my company's brand ? If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence allows that kind of deals .. Am I right ? Thanks for any tips .. Eriam Schaffter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi all .. licence issue ..
Have you looked here http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html -Original Message- From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi all .. licence issue .. I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ? Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ? Is it GPL ? Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or my company's brand ? If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence allows that kind of deals .. Am I right ? Thanks for any tips .. Eriam Schaffter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 + From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue .. I just did right now .. One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav experience with it .. Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence) and if yes what parts ? Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs) include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to the Sun binary license: * activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs) * jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs) * jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs) * jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs) * mail.jar (JavaMail APIs) * jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs) The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM. Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software License. Exceptions include: * mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included) Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for free ? As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license. In the case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to click through to download it. You DID read that, didn't you? Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ? I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably. Eriam Craig Subir Sengupta a écrit: Have you looked here http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html -Original Message- From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi all .. licence issue .. I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ? Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ? Is it GPL ? Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or my company's brand ? If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence allows that kind of deals .. Am I right ? Thanks for any tips .. Eriam Schaffter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ce courrier a ete considere comme non infecte par les virus connu de notre outil de detection. Soyez cependant prudent avec les pieces jointes. Merci. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..
Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 + From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue .. I just did right now .. One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav experience with it .. Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence) and if yes what parts ? Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs) include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to the Sun binary license: * activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs) * jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs) * jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs) * jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs) * mail.jar (JavaMail APIs) * jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs) The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM. Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software License. Exceptions include: * mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included) Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for free ? As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license. In the case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to click through to download it. You DID read that, didn't you? ;-) Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ? I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably. There is at least one of the developers who tests against kaffe and gcj. Unfortunately for you, he doesn't spend a lot of his time on the 4.x version. According to his reports, at least at one point, Tomcat 4 ran fine with kaffe and gcj (and commented that gcj didn't really beat HotSpot :). The only way to know for sure is to test your application against it. Eriam Craig Subir Sengupta a écrit: Have you looked here http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html -Original Message- From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi all .. licence issue .. I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ? Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ? Is it GPL ? Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or my company's brand ? If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence allows that kind of deals .. Am I right ? Thanks for any tips .. Eriam Schaffter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ce courrier a ete considere comme non infecte par les virus connu de notre outil de detection. Soyez cependant prudent avec les pieces jointes. Merci. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]