Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

2002-11-27 Thread Eriam Schaffter
I did read the licence but .. can I use sdk or jre in a commercial 
environnment (not just research developpment but  production environment 
.. ) ?

Simple question .. and it was not clear to me in the licence ..

Eriam


Bill Barker a écrit:

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote:

 

Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 +
From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

I just did right now ..

One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav
experience with it ..

Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence)
and if yes what parts ?
   


 

Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs)
include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to
the Sun binary license:
   


 

* activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs)
* jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs)
* jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs)
* jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs)
* mail.jar (JavaMail APIs)
* jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs)
   


 

The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been
built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM.
   


 

Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software
License.  Exceptions include:
   


 

* mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included)
   


 

Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for
free ?
   


 

As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license.  In the
case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to
click through to download it.  You DID read that, didn't you?
   


;-)

 

Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ?

   


 

I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's
possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably.
   


There is at least one of the developers who tests against kaffe and gcj.
Unfortunately for you, he doesn't spend a lot of his time on the 4.x
version.  According to his reports, at least at one point, Tomcat 4 ran fine
with kaffe and gcj (and commented that gcj didn't really beat HotSpot :).
The only way to know for sure is to test your application against it.

 

Eriam
   


Craig


 

Subir Sengupta a écrit:

   

Have you looked here
http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html

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From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Hi all .. licence issue ..


I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no
problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with
tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ?
Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ?
Is it GPL ?
Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and
distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or
my company's brand ?
If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use
some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence
allows that kind of deals ..

Am I right ?

Thanks for any tips ..

Eriam Schaffter


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Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

2002-11-27 Thread Carl Trusiak
The license states :
1.  LICENSE TO USE.  Sun grants you a non-exclusive
and non-transferable license for the internal use only
of the accompanying software...

This seems to me to be all the permission you need to
use the SDK within your company.

In addition, there is language that allows you to
Distribute within your company or with your product
binarys as long as :
(i) you distribute the Redistributables complete and
unmodified...


So, read it real close once again.


--- Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did read the licence but .. can I use sdk or jre
 in a commercial 
 environnment (not just research developpment but 
 production environment 
 .. ) ?
 
 Simple question .. and it was not clear to me in the
 licence ..
 
 Eriam
 
 
 Bill Barker a écrit:
 
 Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 in message

[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 
 On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote:
 
   
 
 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 +
 From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..
 
 I just did right now ..
 
 One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but
 maybe people hav
 experience with it ..
 
 Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not
 covered by Apache licence)
 and if yes what parts ?
 
 
 
   
 
 Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE
 version for 1.4-based JVMs)
 include the following Sun packages that are
 redistributable according to
 the Sun binary license:
 
 
 
   
 
 * activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework
 APIs)
 * jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package
 APIs)
 * jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface
 APIs)
 * jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs)
 * mail.jar (JavaMail APIs)
 * jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization
 Service APIs)
 
 
 
   
 
 The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these,
 because they have all been
 built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM.
 
 
 
   
 
 Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under
 the Apache Software
 License.  Exceptions include:
 
 
 
   
 
 * mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX
 - license included)
 
 
 
   
 
 Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a
 business environment for
 free ?
 
 
 
   
 
 As with all software, you need to obey the terms
 of the license.  In the
 case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in
 the license you had to
 click through to download it.  You DID read that,
 didn't you?
 
 
 
 ;-)
 
   
 
 Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ?
 
 
 
 
   
 
 I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under
 such JVMs -- it's
 possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably.
 
 
 
 There is at least one of the developers who tests
 against kaffe and gcj.
 Unfortunately for you, he doesn't spend a lot of
 his time on the 4.x
 version.  According to his reports, at least at one
 point, Tomcat 4 ran fine
 with kaffe and gcj (and commented that gcj didn't
 really beat HotSpot :).
 The only way to know for sure is to test your
 application against it.
 
   
 
 Eriam
 
 
 
 Craig
 
 
   
 
 Subir Sengupta a écrit:
 
 
 
 Have you looked here
 http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eriam Schaffter
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hi all .. licence issue ..
 
 
 I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I
 think it would be no
 problem but my question is if then I want to
 redistribute a product with
 tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ?
 Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ?
 Is it GPL ?
 Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with
 added features and
 distribute back both to tomcat community and to
 public under my own or
 my company's brand ?
 If think it must just be as easier as it (stating
 in my softs that I use
 some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe
 the tomcat licence
 allows that kind of deals ..
 
 Am I right ?
 
 Thanks for any tips ..
 
 Eriam Schaffter
 
 
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Hi all .. licence issue ..

2002-11-26 Thread Eriam Schaffter
I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no 
problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with 
tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ?
Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ?
Is it GPL ?
Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and 
distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or 
my company's brand ?
If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use 
some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence 
allows that kind of deals ..

Am I right ?

Thanks for any tips ..

Eriam Schaffter


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RE: Hi all .. licence issue ..

2002-11-26 Thread Subir Sengupta
Have you looked here
http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html

-Original Message-
From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hi all .. licence issue ..


I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no 
problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with 
tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ?
Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ?
Is it GPL ?
Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and 
distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or 
my company's brand ?
If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use 
some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence 
allows that kind of deals ..

Am I right ?

Thanks for any tips ..

Eriam Schaffter


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Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

2002-11-26 Thread Craig R. McClanahan


On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote:

 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 +
 From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

 I just did right now ..

 One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav
 experience with it ..

 Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence)
 and if yes what parts ?

Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs)
include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to
the Sun binary license:

* activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs)
* jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs)
* jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs)
* jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs)
* mail.jar (JavaMail APIs)
* jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs)

The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been
built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM.

Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software
License.  Exceptions include:

* mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included)

 Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for
 free ?

As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license.  In the
case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to
click through to download it.  You DID read that, didn't you?

 Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ?


I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's
possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably.

 Eriam

Craig



 Subir Sengupta a écrit:

 Have you looked here
 http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hi all .. licence issue ..
 
 
 I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no
 problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with
 tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ?
 Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ?
 Is it GPL ?
 Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and
 distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or
 my company's brand ?
 If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use
 some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence
 allows that kind of deals ..
 
 Am I right ?
 
 Thanks for any tips ..
 
 Eriam Schaffter
 
 
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Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

2002-11-26 Thread Bill Barker

Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Eriam Schaffter wrote:

 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:08:47 +
 From: Eriam Schaffter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Hi all .. licence issue ..

 I just did right now ..

 One question remains wich is a bit off-topic but maybe people hav
 experience with it ..

 Does tomcat includes code from sun (code not covered by Apache licence)
 and if yes what parts ?

 Tomcat binary distributions (other than the LE version for 1.4-based JVMs)
 include the following Sun packages that are redistributable according to
 the Sun binary license:

 * activation.jar (JavaBeans Activation Framework APIs)
 * jdbc2_0-stdext.jar (JDBC 2.0 Optional Package APIs)
 * jndi.jar (Java Naming and Directory Interface APIs)
 * jta.jar (Java Transaction Architecture APIs)
 * mail.jar (JavaMail APIs)
 * jaas.jar (Java Authencation and Authorization Service APIs)

 The LE version of Tomcat doesn't include these, because they have all been
 built in to a JDK 1.4 JVM.

 Nearly all the other code is from Apache, under the Apache Software
 License.  Exceptions include:

 * mx4j-jmx.jar (Open source implementation of JMX - license included)

 Actually can I use the java sdk from sun in a business environment for
 free ?

 As with all software, you need to obey the terms of the license.  In the
 case of a Sun JDK, the terms and conditions are in the license you had to
 click through to download it.  You DID read that, didn't you?

;-)

 Does tomcat run with kaffe or another GPL JVM .. ?


 I don't know of anyone who has tested Tomcat under such JVMs -- it's
 possible but IMHO not real likely to run reliably.

There is at least one of the developers who tests against kaffe and gcj.
Unfortunately for you, he doesn't spend a lot of his time on the 4.x
version.  According to his reports, at least at one point, Tomcat 4 ran fine
with kaffe and gcj (and commented that gcj didn't really beat HotSpot :).
The only way to know for sure is to test your application against it.

 Eriam

Craig



 Subir Sengupta a écrit:

 Have you looked here
 http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eriam Schaffter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hi all .. licence issue ..
 
 
 I would like to hack a little with tomcat .. I think it would be no
 problem but my question is if then I want to redistribute a product with
 tomcat stuff in it what are the requierements ?
 Does tomcat includes any sun proprietary code ?
 Is it GPL ?
 Can I just take tomcat sources, recompile it with added features and
 distribute back both to tomcat community and to public under my own or
 my company's brand ?
 If think it must just be as easier as it (stating in my softs that I use
 some code from apache fundation ..) as I believe the tomcat licence
 allows that kind of deals ..
 
 Am I right ?
 
 Thanks for any tips ..
 
 Eriam Schaffter
 
 
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