RE: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down
>It seems to be a lifelock in mod_jk, because tomcat accepts the
>connection, but is not able to reply. I think its that while-loop in
>mod_jk:
That's all the magic of TCP IOs. You can connect, but you're not
sure that the remote server is ready to process your query.
Something which will be removed in AJP14 by the LOGIN feature.
Another "beauty" of socket API is that you couldn't be sure
the write() call was really successfull before doing a read()
call.
Which make me think that when servicing a request we must add
somewhere a 'kind of timeout' in operation. But that complexify
also the process, since you had to play with NON-BLOCKED IO...
>static int ajpv12_handle_response(ajp12_endpoint_t *p,
> jk_ws_service_t *s,
> jk_logger_t *l)
>{
>while(1) {
>unsigned to_read = READ_BUF_SIZE;
>unsigned acc = 0;
>char *buf = NULL;
>
>if(!jk_sb_read(&p->sb, &buf, to_read, &acc)) {
>jk_log(l, JK_LOG_ERROR, "ajpv12_handle_response, error
>reading
> from \n"); return JK_FALSE;
>}
>
>if(!acc) {
>jk_log(l, JK_LOG_DEBUG, "ajpv12_handle_response, response
>body is
> done\n"); break;
>}
>
>if(write_to_ws) {
>if(!s->write(s, buf, acc)) {
>jk_log(l, JK_LOG_ERROR, "ajpv12_handle_response, error
> writing back to server\n"); write_to_ws = JK_FALSE;}
>}
>}
>---
>
>
>what do you think?
>
>Greetings,
>Timo
>
>Guido Medina wrote:
>>
>> Yesd, I had, I changed to mod_jserv, I'm still waiting for
>the same answer
>> as you do, for the high CPU request of mod_jk...
>>
>> Guido.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Timo Carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:37 AM
>> Subject: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache
>when tomcat breaks
>> down
>>
>> > Hello tomcat-users,
>> >
>> > We are having a problem with mod_jk and load balancing.
>> > Does anyone else have had similar problems with that kind of
>> > architecture setup?
>> >
>> > Our System:
>> > ===
>> > Alteon switch (round robin)
>> > |
>> > |
>> > three Apache 1.3.19 on three SPARC-Servers (called
>s1,s2,s3)(3 CPU, 3
>> > GB)
>> > |
>> > |each:
>> > mod_jk with lb (in case of s1: 1*s1,0.001*s2,0.001*s3)
>> > |
>> > |
>> > |
>> > two tomcats-3.2.1 on each server (jdk1.2.2, native threads, -Xms50M
>> > -Xoss4M -Xss4M -Xmx600M)
>> >
>> > We chose this architecture because the alteon is not able
>to perform
>> > session tracking properly.
>> >
>> > The Problem:
>> >
>> > On startup, the system works fine. Each java-Process has
>about 1-8% CPU
>> > load.
>> > After one day or so, one tomcat takes 40% CPU load or
>more. I think the
>> > reason is inside our applications. But thats not the error
>I want to
>> > post:
>> >
>> > After the error of a tomcat, the httpd-processes on EACH
>Server begin to
>> > take a lot of CPU time (8-30% each).
>> > In server-status I can see that the processes are waiting
>for a response
>> > of that tomcat.
>> > Of course I want to have a fault tolerance, but when I
>have a problem
>> > with one server, the other servers go down too.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did/Does anyone have the same problem and/or a similar system
>> > architecture?
>> > Maybe anyone solved that problem?
>> >
>> > Greetings and thanks in advance,
>> > Timo Carl
>
>--
>
>
>
>Timo Carl
>Technik & Programmierung
>
>travelchannel GmbH
>Kehrwieder 8
>D-20457 Hamburg
>Telefon +49/40/38617-275
>Telefax +49/40/38617-330
>
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>
RE: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down
>The problem has been seen on both, ajp13 and ajp12. >We use tomcat-3.2.1. Ok, I'm using TC 3.2.2b5 and 3.3m3. >What do think about using mod_jserv again? mod_jserv appears to be in end-of-life. No more actively supported. I'd rather like see your bug-report about the current apache tomcat connector (mod_jk) >What kind of quality has the T3.3 cvs mod_jk? Is it possible to use it >in a productive environment? I used this one in production, it's stable and all mod_jk bugs are fixed against this one since the TC 3.2 is +/- closed for developpement (only fatal bugs are to be fixed) >Greetings, >Timo > >GOMEZ Henri wrote: >> >> Could you tell us if you're using ajp12 or ajp13 ? >> >> The latest mod_jk in TC 3.3 cvs handle correctly the >> case were on Tomcat failed or has been restarted >
Re: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down
The problem has been seen on both, ajp13 and ajp12. We use tomcat-3.2.1. What do think about using mod_jserv again? What kind of quality has the T3.3 cvs mod_jk? Is it possible to use it in a productive environment? Greetings, Timo GOMEZ Henri wrote: > > Could you tell us if you're using ajp12 or ajp13 ? > > The latest mod_jk in TC 3.3 cvs handle correctly the > case were on Tomcat failed or has been restarted begin:vcard n:Carl;Timo tel;fax:++49/40/3703-7759 tel;work:++49/40/3703-7275 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.travelchannel.de org:G+J travelchannel;Technik version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] adr;quoted-printable:;;Am Baumwall 11=0D=0AD-20459 Hamburg fn:Timo Carl end:vcard
RE: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down
Could you tell us if you're using ajp12 or ajp13 ? The latest mod_jk in TC 3.3 cvs handle correctly the case were on Tomcat failed or has been restarted - Henri Gomez ___[_] EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED](. .) PGP KEY : 697ECEDD...oOOo..(_)..oOOo... PGP Fingerprint : 9DF8 1EA8 ED53 2F39 DC9B 904A 364F 80E6 >-Original Message- >From: Timo Carl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:38 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat >breaks down > > >Hello tomcat-users, > >We are having a problem with mod_jk and load balancing. >Does anyone else have had similar problems with that kind of >architecture setup? > >Our System: >=== >Alteon switch (round robin) >| >| >three Apache 1.3.19 on three SPARC-Servers (called s1,s2,s3)(3 CPU, 3 >GB) >| >|each: >mod_jk with lb (in case of s1: 1*s1,0.001*s2,0.001*s3) >| >| >| >two tomcats-3.2.1 on each server (jdk1.2.2, native threads, -Xms50M >-Xoss4M -Xss4M -Xmx600M) > >We chose this architecture because the alteon is not able to perform >session tracking properly. > >The Problem: > >On startup, the system works fine. Each java-Process has about 1-8% CPU >load. >After one day or so, one tomcat takes 40% CPU load or more. I think the >reason is inside our applications. But thats not the error I want to >post: > >After the error of a tomcat, the httpd-processes on EACH >Server begin to >take a lot of CPU time (8-30% each). >In server-status I can see that the processes are waiting for >a response >of that tomcat. >Of course I want to have a fault tolerance, but when I have a problem >with one server, the other servers go down too. > > >Did/Does anyone have the same problem and/or a similar system >architecture? >Maybe anyone solved that problem? > >Greetings and thanks in advance, >Timo Carl >
Re: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down
>I'm still waiting for the same answer
>as you do, for the high CPU request of mod_jk...
Yes, so I do.
I did not find any article or post about that problem. So I did not
check out mod_jserv. Before tomcat, we use jserv without problems. I
think, we will give mod_jserv a chance.
It seems to be a lifelock in mod_jk, because tomcat accepts the
connection, but is not able to reply. I think its that while-loop in
mod_jk:
static int ajpv12_handle_response(ajp12_endpoint_t *p,
jk_ws_service_t *s,
jk_logger_t *l)
{
while(1) {
unsigned to_read = READ_BUF_SIZE;
unsigned acc = 0;
char *buf = NULL;
if(!jk_sb_read(&p->sb, &buf, to_read, &acc)) {
jk_log(l, JK_LOG_ERROR, "ajpv12_handle_response, error
reading
from \n"); return JK_FALSE;
}
if(!acc) {
jk_log(l, JK_LOG_DEBUG, "ajpv12_handle_response, response
body is
done\n"); break;
}
if(write_to_ws) {
if(!s->write(s, buf, acc)) {
jk_log(l, JK_LOG_ERROR, "ajpv12_handle_response, error
writing back to server\n"); write_to_ws = JK_FALSE;
> Yesd, I had, I changed to mod_jserv, I'm still waiting for the same answer
> as you do, for the high CPU request of mod_jk...
>
> Guido.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Timo Carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:37 AM
> Subject: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks
> down
>
> > Hello tomcat-users,
> >
> > We are having a problem with mod_jk and load balancing.
> > Does anyone else have had similar problems with that kind of
> > architecture setup?
> >
> > Our System:
> > ===
> > Alteon switch (round robin)
> > |
> > |
> > three Apache 1.3.19 on three SPARC-Servers (called s1,s2,s3)(3 CPU, 3
> > GB)
> > |
> > |each:
> > mod_jk with lb (in case of s1: 1*s1,0.001*s2,0.001*s3)
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > two tomcats-3.2.1 on each server (jdk1.2.2, native threads, -Xms50M
> > -Xoss4M -Xss4M -Xmx600M)
> >
> > We chose this architecture because the alteon is not able to perform
> > session tracking properly.
> >
> > The Problem:
> >
> > On startup, the system works fine. Each java-Process has about 1-8% CPU
> > load.
> > After one day or so, one tomcat takes 40% CPU load or more. I think the
> > reason is inside our applications. But thats not the error I want to
> > post:
> >
> > After the error of a tomcat, the httpd-processes on EACH Server begin to
> > take a lot of CPU time (8-30% each).
> > In server-status I can see that the processes are waiting for a response
> > of that tomcat.
> > Of course I want to have a fault tolerance, but when I have a problem
> > with one server, the other servers go down too.
> >
> >
> > Did/Does anyone have the same problem and/or a similar system
> > architecture?
> > Maybe anyone solved that problem?
> >
> > Greetings and thanks in advance,
> > Timo Carl
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Telefon +49/40/38617-275
Telefax +49/40/38617-330
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Re: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down
Yesd, I had, I changed to mod_jserv, I'm still waiting for the same answer as you do, for the high CPU request of mod_jk... Guido. - Original Message - From: "Timo Carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: lb-problem with mod_jk: high cpu load on apache when tomcat breaks down > Hello tomcat-users, > > We are having a problem with mod_jk and load balancing. > Does anyone else have had similar problems with that kind of > architecture setup? > > Our System: > === > Alteon switch (round robin) > | > | > three Apache 1.3.19 on three SPARC-Servers (called s1,s2,s3)(3 CPU, 3 > GB) > | > |each: > mod_jk with lb (in case of s1: 1*s1,0.001*s2,0.001*s3) > | > | > | > two tomcats-3.2.1 on each server (jdk1.2.2, native threads, -Xms50M > -Xoss4M -Xss4M -Xmx600M) > > We chose this architecture because the alteon is not able to perform > session tracking properly. > > The Problem: > > On startup, the system works fine. Each java-Process has about 1-8% CPU > load. > After one day or so, one tomcat takes 40% CPU load or more. I think the > reason is inside our applications. But thats not the error I want to > post: > > After the error of a tomcat, the httpd-processes on EACH Server begin to > take a lot of CPU time (8-30% each). > In server-status I can see that the processes are waiting for a response > of that tomcat. > Of course I want to have a fault tolerance, but when I have a problem > with one server, the other servers go down too. > > > Did/Does anyone have the same problem and/or a similar system > architecture? > Maybe anyone solved that problem? > > Greetings and thanks in advance, > Timo Carl
