RE: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh

2003-08-04 Thread Zille Hassan
Dear Philipp
 Since your question is regarding tomcat on linux, so I thought it best
to put my question to you as well. I have downloaded the rpm file for
the SDK or jdk 1.4. When I see the file on linux machine, I see
___.rpm.bin  
How do I install it ? Any suggestions ?



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From: Philipp Leusmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh


Hello,

when I stop tomcat using shutdown.sh there are still many
tomcat-processes running in linux. Is this normal or do I have a
configuration problem (contexts are not closed properly)? I use a
connection pool to a Mysql-database in my application
(BasicDatasourceFactory). Do I have to close these connections somehow
manually?

Thanks,
 Philipp



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RE: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh

2003-08-04 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

 Since your question is regarding tomcat on linux, so I thought it best
to put my question to you as well. I have downloaded the rpm file for
the SDK or jdk 1.4. When I see the file on linux machine, I see
___.rpm.bin
How do I install it ? Any suggestions ?

Bad idea: start another thread for your question, don't hijack someone
else's.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh

2003-08-04 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

when I stop tomcat using shutdown.sh there are still many
tomcat-processes
running in linux. Is this normal or do I have a configuration problem
(contexts are not closed properly)?
I use a connection pool to a Mysql-database in my application
(BasicDatasourceFactory). Do I have to close these connections somehow
manually?

There are non-daemon background threads for MySQL.  Ensure proper
shutdown of the connection pool/driver.  Use CTRL-Break to see what
threads are doing in the JVM.  Search the archives for this list as this
question has come up and been answered a few times, including two weeks
ago.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh

2003-08-04 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Search the list archives on AIMS for shutdown thread daemon and you'll
see many threads with this information.

Read the VM documentation on using CTRL-BREAK (or SIGQUIT) to get a
thread dump.  This will show you what the lingering processes are, so
you can kill them.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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From: Philipp Leusmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:37 PM
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Subject: AW: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh

Hi,

thanks for your answer first.
I think i?ve removed the database now, but I still have a similiar
problem
with a mailsession to an imap-server I create in
ContextListener.contextInitialized(). I put this session into the
servlet-cotext to easily write mails or provide mailbox-creation during
runtime. I also remove the session in contextDestroyed(), but still
there
are java-processes.
What do you mean with Use CTRL-break?
I am sorry that I ask again here, but I couldn?t find a thread which
exactly
describes my problem. ( There was one about daemon/non-daemon-threads
which
was not very helpful. Did you mean that one? If not, it would be great
if
you could give me the subject of the thread.

Thanks,
 Philipp

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 Betreff: RE: Many java-processes left after shutdown.sh



 Howdy,

 when I stop tomcat using shutdown.sh there are still many
 tomcat-processes
 running in linux. Is this normal or do I have a configuration
problem
 (contexts are not closed properly)?
 I use a connection pool to a Mysql-database in my application
 (BasicDatasourceFactory). Do I have to close these connections
somehow
 manually?

 There are non-daemon background threads for MySQL.  Ensure proper
 shutdown of the connection pool/driver.  Use CTRL-Break to see what
 threads are doing in the JVM.  Search the archives for this list as
this
 question has come up and been answered a few times, including two
weeks
 ago.

 Yoav Shapira



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RE : many java processes

2002-03-22 Thread Gregor Kovaè

Hi!

I think that this is because threads are represented like processes under 
Linux.

Best regards,
 Kovi

At 18:25 22.3.2002 +0100, you wrote:
I am running Tomcat 4.0.3 with j2sdk1.4.0, Apache 1.3 with a webapp
connector on a Cobalt Raq4 server (kernel 2.2.16C28_III).
I don't understand there is so many java processes (more than 130).
There is 8 sites that include a web application.

Here is parts of my configuration files :

Server port=8005 shutdown=SHUTDOWN debug=0
   Service name=Tomcat-Apache
 Connector
className=org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnector
  port=8008 minProcessors=5 maxProcessors=10
  enableLookups=true appBase=webapps
  acceptCount=10 debug=debug/
 Engine className=org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpEngine
  name=Apache debug=0
   Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
   prefix=apache_log. suffix=.log
   timestamp=true/
   Realm className=org.apache.catalina.realm.MemoryRealm /
   Host name=www.site1.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site1.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site1.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site2.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site2.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site2.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site3.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site3.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site3.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site4.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site4.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site4.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site5.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site5.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site5.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site6.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site6.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site6.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host  Host name=www.site7.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site7.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site7.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site8.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site8.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site8.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
 /Engine
   /Service
/Server


Thanks for helping

Regards
Vince

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De : Dean Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoye : jeudi 21 mars 2002 15:38
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : many java processes


On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of
one process per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were
going to port to a new threading model but we needed to update the linux
threading  I have seen many e-mails complaining about how tomcat
creates s many processes and this is due to a JVM thing not tomcat.
Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many many java
processes on their linux? Any help, pointers you could give me would be
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RE : RE : many java processes

2002-03-22 Thread Vincent Lambert

I know that but my question is why do i have so many thread.
I set up my configuration with 10 maxProcessor so I should have 10 java
threads.

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De : Gregor Kovae [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Envoye : vendredi 22 mars 2002 19:00
A : Tomcat Users List
Objet : RE : many java processes


Hi!

I think that this is because threads are represented like processes
under 
Linux.

Best regards,
 Kovi

At 18:25 22.3.2002 +0100, you wrote:
I am running Tomcat 4.0.3 with j2sdk1.4.0, Apache 1.3 with a webapp 
connector on a Cobalt Raq4 server (kernel 2.2.16C28_III). I don't 
understand there is so many java processes (more than 130). There is 8 
sites that include a web application.

Here is parts of my configuration files :

Server port=8005 shutdown=SHUTDOWN debug=0
   Service name=Tomcat-Apache
 Connector 
className=org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnector
  port=8008 minProcessors=5 maxProcessors=10
  enableLookups=true appBase=webapps
  acceptCount=10 debug=debug/
 Engine className=org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpEngine
  name=Apache debug=0
   Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
   prefix=apache_log. suffix=.log
   timestamp=true/
   Realm className=org.apache.catalina.realm.MemoryRealm /
   Host name=www.site1.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site1.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site1.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site2.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site2.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site2.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site3.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site3.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site3.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site4.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site4.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site4.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site5.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site5.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site5.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site6.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site6.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site6.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host  Host name=www.site7.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site7.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site7.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
   Host name=www.site8.com
 Context path=
  docBase=/home/sites/www.site8.com/web /
 Logger className=org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger
 prefix=site8.com. suffix=.log
 timestamp=true /
   /Host
 /Engine
   /Service
/Server


Thanks for helping

Regards
Vince

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De : Dean Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoye : jeudi 21 mars 2002 15:38
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : many java processes


On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of 
one process per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were 
going to port to a new threading model but we needed to update the 
linux threading  I have seen many e-mails complaining about how 
tomcat creates s many processes and this is due to a JVM thing not 
tomcat. Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many many

java processes on their linux? Any help, pointers you could give me 
would be great, thanks, Dean


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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread D. Jay Newman

 On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of one process 
per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were going to port to a new 
threading model but we needed to update the linux threading  I have seen many 
e-mails complaining about how tomcat creates s many processes and this is due to 
a JVM thing not tomcat.  Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many 
many java processes on their linux?
 Any help, pointers you could give me would be great,

As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple processes. If you
look closely at the output of ps all the java processes exist in the
same processes.

Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports threads as well
as processes.
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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Dean Hiller

than why do they all have a different process id??  Also, how what would the option be 
to turn off viewing of threads and just view processes?
thanks for your help Jay,
Dean

D. Jay Newman wrote:

  On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of one process 
per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were going to port to a new 
threading model but we needed to update the linux threading  I have seen many 
e-mails complaining about how tomcat creates s many processes and this is due to 
a JVM thing not tomcat.  Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many 
many java processes on their linux?
  Any help, pointers you could give me would be great,

 As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple processes. If you
 look closely at the output of ps all the java processes exist in the
 same processes.

 Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports threads as well
 as processes.
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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread D. Jay Newman

I looked at my ps output, and they do seem to each have a different pid.

However, I will look into this. I *think* that I have native threads on
this machine.

I don't know ps well enough to find the right option, but there is always
man ps...

 than why do they all have a different process id??  Also, how what would the option 
be to turn off viewing of threads and just view processes?
 thanks for your help Jay,
 Dean
 
 D. Jay Newman wrote:
 
   On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of one 
process per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were going to port to a 
new threading model but we needed to update the linux threading  I have seen many 
e-mails complaining about how tomcat creates s many processes and this is due to 
a JVM thing not tomcat.  Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many 
many java processes on their linux?
   Any help, pointers you could give me would be great,
 
  As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple processes. If you
  look closely at the output of ps all the java processes exist in the
  same processes.
 
  Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports threads as well
  as processes.
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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Jean-Luc BEAUDET

D. Jay Newman a écrit :

 I looked at my ps output, and they do seem to each have a different pid.

 However, I will look into this. I *think* that I have native threads on
 this machine.

 I don't know ps well enough to find the right option, but there is always
 man ps...

  than why do they all have a different process id??  Also, how what would the 
option be to turn off viewing of threads and just view processes?
  thanks for your help Jay,
  Dean
 
  D. Jay Newman wrote:
 
On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of one 
process per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were going to port to a 
new threading model but we needed to update the linux threading  I have seen many 
e-mails complaining about how tomcat creates s many processes and this is due to 
a JVM thing not tomcat.  Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many 
many java processes on their linux?
Any help, pointers you could give me would be great,
  
   As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple processes. If you
   look closely at the output of ps all the java processes exist in the
   same processes.
  
   Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports threads as well
   as processes.
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It's a strange way of Linux to associate the threads binded to the Tomcat process as 
process themself.

I don't work on Linux but on Solaris. Just give an output exerpt of yur ps and let see 
if a ps .. | grep may do the tricK.

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RE: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Cato, Christopher

pstree -p might help to show what get's started by what

For the processes, they aren't really processes as someone has said earlier
but rather the LINUX representation of threads. Threads are shown as
processes. 

Does the fact that threads are shown as processes in PS cause you any
problems? If not, just ignore it. Linus will probably fix that sometime.

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 From: D. Jay Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: den 21 mars 2002 15:51
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 Subject: Re: many java processes
 
 
 I looked at my ps output, and they do seem to each have a 
 different pid.
 
 However, I will look into this. I *think* that I have native 
 threads on
 this machine.
 
 I don't know ps well enough to find the right option, but 
 there is always
 man ps...
 
  than why do they all have a different process id??  Also, 
 how what would the option be to turn off viewing of threads 
 and just view processes?
  thanks for your help Jay,
  Dean
  
  D. Jay Newman wrote:
  
On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing 
 the problem of one process per java thread.  I read on the 
 sun bug parade they were going to port to a new threading 
 model but we needed to update the linux threading  I have 
 seen many e-mails complaining about how tomcat creates s 
 many processes and this is due to a JVM thing not tomcat.  
 Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many 
 many java processes on their linux?
Any help, pointers you could give me would be great,
  
   As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple 
 processes. If you
   look closely at the output of ps all the java 
 processes exist in the
   same processes.
  
   Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports 
 threads as well
   as processes.
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RE: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Furmaniak Christophe

 
 pstree -p might help to show what get's started by what
 

and if you prefer to have a true ps output, just try ps -faux


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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Dean Hiller

thanks all for the help, I have a much better understanding of what is going on.  Our 
customers were complaining about that.  I will contact redhat as to see if they are 
going to fix that or not.
thanks,
Dean

Furmaniak Christophe wrote:

 
  pstree -p might help to show what get's started by what
 

 and if you prefer to have a true ps output, just try ps -faux

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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Jason Koeninger

I missed a lot of this thread, but given some of the comments made,
I thought I should post some information.  FWIW, these discussions
take place frequently and can be found in the list archives.

The Linux thread implementation represents a thread as a process.
That's why you see tons of processes when any Java application is
running.  Unlike a normal  process, though, all of these processes
share the same address space so the memory use you see in ps
or top is really shared across all of the processes.

As far as Sun fixing something, I'm not sure there's something to
fix, but I do believe some JVM's have a green threads implementation
that runs multiple threads on a single Linux thread.  There may also be 
other threading models under development for Linux.  I  know IBM was
working on a more Solaris-like MxN threading scheme, but I don't
keep up with Linux enough to know the specifics of any of those projects.

HTH

Best Regards,

Jason Koeninger
JJ Computer Consulting
http://www.jjcc.com

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:23:22 +0100, Jean-Luc BEAUDET wrote:

D. Jay Newman a ‚crit :

 I looked at my ps output, and they do seem to each have a different pid.

 However, I will look into this. I *think* that I have native threads on
 this machine.

 I don't know ps well enough to find the right option, but there is always
 man ps...

  than why do they all have a different process id??  Also, how what would the 
option be to turn off viewing of threads and just view processes?
  thanks for your help Jay,
  Dean
 
  D. Jay Newman wrote:
 
On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of one 
process per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were going to port to a 
new threading model but we needed to update the linux threading  I have seen many 
e-mails complaining about how tomcat creates s many processes and this is due to 
a JVM thing not tomcat.  Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many 
many java processes on their linux?
Any help, pointers you could give me would be great,
  
   As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple processes. If you
   look closely at the output of ps all the java processes exist in the
   same processes.
  
   Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports threads as well
   as processes.
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It's a strange way of Linux to associate the threads binded to the Tomcat process as 
process themself.

I don't work on Linux but on Solaris. Just give an output exerpt of yur ps and let 
see if a ps .. | grep may do the tricK.

Jean-Luc B :O)



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Re: many java processes

2002-03-21 Thread Erwin Ambrosch

When I do a ps and Tomcat is running I get a different pid for each Java 
(Process?). pstree also says that there are some java (Processes?) are 
running.  Can you say me how I can determine whetere all the Java (Prosesses) 
are belonging to the same process. Are you sure to not missinterpreting a 
father process (root process).

lg Erwin

Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2002 15:16 schrieben Sie:
  On linux did anybody ever get a linux patch for fixing the problem of one
  process per java thread.  I read on the sun bug parade they were going to
  port to a new threading model but we needed to update the linux
  threading  I have seen many e-mails complaining about how tomcat
  creates s many processes and this is due to a JVM thing not tomcat. 
  Does anybody know or is everyone just sitting by with many many java
  processes on their linux? Any help, pointers you could give me would be
  great,

 As near as I can tell, Linux *doesn't* create multiple processes. If you
 look closely at the output of ps all the java processes exist in the
 same processes.

 Linux (at least RedHat) comes with a ps that reports threads as well
 as processes.

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RE: many java processes

2002-02-26 Thread KC Berg

all threads started in java will show up as pid's in Linux. Linux does not
do true threading. it's not a big deal. if you see to many check your code
for opening threads. also check your garbage collection settings.

-Original Message-
From: chad kellerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:48 AM
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Subject: many java processes


Hello everyone,

   I am running a red hat 6.2 tomcat 4.01 webapp server configured for
virtual host.

   I have noticed that if tomcat stays running it builds up a lot of java
processes.  Has this caused anyone any problems with anyones elses servers?

   I am afraid that if a put a few java domains on the server the java
processes will begin to go through the roof.

 Any information/insites would be greatly appreciated.

-chad  

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RE: many java processes

2002-02-26 Thread KC Berg

also tomcat will only open as many pid's/thread's as is specified in your
server.xml

maxProcessors=75 part of the connector params. 

the above is the default. Running top may make it look like a lot of stuff
is running but if you look at the memory and CPU utilization of the pid's
you'll notice they are very low. Also the number of pid's will change as the
number of concurrent users to your system increases or decreases.

-Original Message-
From: chad kellerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: many java processes


Hello everyone,

   I am running a red hat 6.2 tomcat 4.01 webapp server configured for
virtual host.

   I have noticed that if tomcat stays running it builds up a lot of java
processes.  Has this caused anyone any problems with anyones elses servers?

   I am afraid that if a put a few java domains on the server the java
processes will begin to go through the roof.

 Any information/insites would be greatly appreciated.

-chad  

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