RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
-Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav Personally, I'd take this support list over any commercial support organization, hands down. +1 Try asking questions like (almost any on this list) to Redmond and see what the response is :-) regards DaveP *** snip here *** -- DISCLAIMER: NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses or other contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any such which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RNIB. RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
go back to formula... Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 John Najarian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 05:05 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Can all you people take this bitching contest elsewhere? My 9 year old knows better than to keep this up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:37 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
That goes to you too... Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 04:37 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
Michael, its better if you just keep your comments to your self. You are so pathetic. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 04:37 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Daniel, I think the same goes for you. You are attacking the generosity and kindness of the people on this list, and I think I speak for most of the list when I say that you have crossed a line. Please make your future posts constructive and refrain from flaming us. -Mike Fowler I could be a genius if I just put my mind to it, and I, I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, its better if you just keep your comments to your self. You are so pathetic. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 04:37 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Tomcat Question - HELP
This needs to stop but if it's to continue, would everyone not mind putting [OT] at the beginnning of the subject line? -Thanks On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 12:04, Mike Fowler wrote: Daniel, I think the same goes for you. You are attacking the generosity and kindness of the people on this list, and I think I speak for most of the list when I say that you have crossed a line. Please make your future posts constructive and refrain from flaming us. -Mike Fowler I could be a genius if I just put my mind to it, and I, I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, its better if you just keep your comments to your self. You are so pathetic. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 04:37 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat Question - HELP
anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron: Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private helpdesk. The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve How to Ask Questions the Smart Way, thank you! Please reach Rick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is an automated e-mail. (Your mail has not reached a human.) Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron: Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private helpdesk. The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve How to Ask Questions the Smart Way, thank you! Please reach Rick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is an automated e-mail. (Your mail has not reached a human.) Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a lot easier for me to debug. Thanks. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 08:35 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron: Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private helpdesk. The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve How to Ask Questions the Smart Way, thank you! Please reach Rick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is an automated e-mail. (Your mail has not reached a human.) Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat Question - HELP
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 08:58:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second : if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. For good or ill, when you post to a public forum, you put yourself at the mercy of all those subscribed. : I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. Understandable, but based on your post there's not a lot for us to go on. You say there's nothing in the logs, and that's 99% of what most people here would check when there's a problem. Tomcat is pretty good about complaining when it can't do something. ;) Otherwise, go for the usual: check the system for memory issues, check whether other processes are causing a problem, etc. -QM -- software -- http://www.brandxdev.net tech news -- http://www.RoarNetworX.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX admins know that. Please post the log and any information that may give us more context. Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a lot easier for me to debug. Thanks. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 08:35 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron: Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private helpdesk. The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve How to Ask Questions the Smart Way, thank you! Please reach Rick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is an automated e-mail. (Your mail has not reached a human.) Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat Question - HELP
Thanks a lot. This is my first time to subscribed to this kind of forum and I would expect people who are here are mostly educated and professional. I appreciate your input. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 QM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:33 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 08:58:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second : if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. For good or ill, when you post to a public forum, you put yourself at the mercy of all those subscribed. : I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. Understandable, but based on your post there's not a lot for us to go on. You say there's nothing in the logs, and that's 99% of what most people here would check when there's a problem. Tomcat is pretty good about complaining when it can't do something. ;) Otherwise, go for the usual: check the system for memory issues, check whether other processes are causing a problem, etc. -QM -- software -- http://www.brandxdev.net tech news -- http://www.RoarNetworX.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Gerardo Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:48 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX admins know that. Please post the log and any information that may give us more context. Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a lot easier for me to debug. Thanks. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 08:35 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron: Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private helpdesk. The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve How to Ask Questions the Smart Way, thank you! Please reach Rick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is an automated e-mail. (Your mail has not reached a human.) Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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With your tomcat PID destroyed, try telneting to your listener ip/port and see if you can get a connection.. something else may be bound to your ip/port that is keeping tomcat from starting.. Thanks, Azam Khan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:01 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Gerardo Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:48 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX admins know that. Please post the log and any information that may give us more context. Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a lot easier for me to debug. Thanks. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 08:35 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron: Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private helpdesk. The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve How to Ask Questions the Smart Way, thank you! Please reach Rick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is an automated e-mail. (Your mail has not reached a human.) Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you
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Have I seen something like this before? Yes I have. Many times. Would I share what I did? Absolutely: I posted the log and described the situation. Now, I see that you're still not posting it... :( Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Personally, I'd take this support list over any commercial support organization, hands down. But that's just my personal experience as someone who's had to make that decision (commercial versus open-source, paid support versus community support, dedicated support staff versus outsourced, etc.), and live with the consequences, many times over the years, and YMMV ;) In this specific case, no commercial support organization would be able to help you more given the negligible information content you posted. Instead, you'd be dragged along until you posted your logs and/or provided steps to reproduce the problem, and be charged according to your support agreement, so at least you'll have the satisfaction of knowing your $$$ spent on support aren't being completely wasted, only mostly wasted. If the problem happens again, and you provide more details, the probability of you getting concrete help is higher than with the scant details provided in your original post. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:01 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Gerardo Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:48 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX admins know that. Please post the log and any information that may give us more context. Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a lot easier for me to debug. Thanks. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 08:35 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM - Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/2004 07:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a tomcat question: I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it won't open the jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server error. It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the Catalina out logs but nothing much there to tell what was the issue. I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine after reboot. Any ideas what cause it not to restart ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Thanks for your mail about How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place. People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons: o Good reason: Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the essay. o VERY BAD reason: Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical help. Guess what? 99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason. If you're about to do that, STOP. Do something else. Anything. Don't act like a moron
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I really don't care what your personal views are. I am not a decision maker here. We use apache/tomcat for non-mission critical app. Actually we don't have a choice because the vendor who wrote the code bundled everything with all those open source stuff. Why don't we make this forum simple. If you are willing help, just focus on helping to address specific technical issues and not express your personal opinions about things that are not relevant like attacking somebody's technical know-how, etc.(not you but one of those who reply to my posting). Like KISS...keep it simple and straight to the point. I didn't post the log because I am 99.99 sure that will only see a clean startup message and nothing else. We actually replicated the issue and killing a tomcat PID, sometimes does not release the port it is listening to/or using. I killed the tomcat PID, clear port 8080 and make sure nothing else is using it or holding it and restarted tomcat with my rc2.d script that calls catalina.sh and it solved my issue. I got that idea from one of the good replies I got for this particular issue. My 2 cents. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 11:49 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, Personally, I'd take this support list over any commercial support organization, hands down. But that's just my personal experience as someone who's had to make that decision (commercial versus open-source, paid support versus community support, dedicated support staff versus outsourced, etc.), and live with the consequences, many times over the years, and YMMV ;) In this specific case, no commercial support organization would be able to help you more given the negligible information content you posted. Instead, you'd be dragged along until you posted your logs and/or provided steps to reproduce the problem, and be charged according to your support agreement, so at least you'll have the satisfaction of knowing your $$$ spent on support aren't being completely wasted, only mostly wasted. If the problem happens again, and you provide more details, the probability of you getting concrete help is higher than with the scant details provided in your original post. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:01 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Gerardo Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:48 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX admins know that. Please post the log and any information that may give us more context. Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question. Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a lot easier for me to debug. Thanks. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 08:35 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine, and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong? Come on ;) Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP anybody ? Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 - Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually replicated the issue and killing a tomcat PID, sometimes does not release the port it is listening to/or using. I killed the tomcat PID, clear port 8080 and make sure nothing else is using it or holding it and restarted tomcat with my rc2.d script that calls catalina.sh and it solved my issue. Daniel, Doesn't your Tomcat bin directory include a shutdown.sh script? Why not use that instead of killing the PID? I've never had an issue with port contention when using shutdown.sh. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Daniel, You really SHOULD care. I just started a web hosting business on the Linux platform using Tomcat. I had no prior experience using the software and I have read as much as I can in books, but they are always out of date, even when new. Press time is always too long. Open source just keeps getting better so much faster. So an open community forum with the WRITERS of the software is a MODERN MIRACLE. This forum, and Yoav, have been invaluble resources to me. No propiretary software provider would EVER be willing to provide such support. They aren't smart enough and they don't care enough. So if you want, stick with your proprietary solutions and your Technical Support Staff (untrained teenagers and non-english speakers reading general answers to your not-so-general questions). But don't disreguard the ADVICE my friend Yoav gave you on HOW TO USE THE RESOURSE he has offered to you FREE OF CHARGE as a common human courtesy. Listen to him. He knows how to help you help yourself. Justin Jaynes --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't care what your personal views are. I am not a decision maker here. We use apache/tomcat for non-mission critical app. Actually we don't have a choice because the vendor who wrote the code bundled everything with all those open source stuff. Why don't we make this forum simple. If you are willing help, just focus on helping to address specific technical issues and not express your personal opinions about things that are not relevant like attacking somebody's technical know-how, etc.(not you but one of those who reply to my posting). Like KISS...keep it simple and straight to the point. I didn't post the log because I am 99.99 sure that will only see a clean startup message and nothing else. We actually replicated the issue and killing a tomcat PID, sometimes does not release the port it is listening to/or using. I killed the tomcat PID, clear port 8080 and make sure nothing else is using it or holding it and restarted tomcat with my rc2.d script that calls catalina.sh and it solved my issue. I got that idea from one of the good replies I got for this particular issue. My 2 cents. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 11:49 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, Personally, I'd take this support list over any commercial support organization, hands down. But that's just my personal experience as someone who's had to make that decision (commercial versus open-source, paid support versus community support, dedicated support staff versus outsourced, etc.), and live with the consequences, many times over the years, and YMMV ;) In this specific case, no commercial support organization would be able to help you more given the negligible information content you posted. Instead, you'd be dragged along until you posted your logs and/or provided steps to reproduce the problem, and be charged according to your support agreement, so at least you'll have the satisfaction of knowing your $$$ spent on support aren't being completely wasted, only mostly wasted. If the problem happens again, and you provide more details, the probability of you getting concrete help is higher than with the scant details provided in your original post. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:01 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Gerardo Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:48 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX admins know that. Please post the log and any information that may give us more context. Gerardo On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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I did use it but it didn't shut it down so I had not choice. I think that's the other puzzle I need to solve. Why it won't shut down gracefully. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Robert F. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 12:26 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Tomcat Question - HELP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We actually replicated the issue and killing a tomcat PID, sometimes does not release the port it is listening to/or using. I killed the tomcat PID, clear port 8080 and make sure nothing else is using it or holding it and restarted tomcat with my rc2.d script that calls catalina.sh and it solved my issue. Daniel, Doesn't your Tomcat bin directory include a shutdown.sh script? Why not use that instead of killing the PID? I've never had an issue with port contention when using shutdown.sh. Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I appreciate your feedback and I do respect his input but he and the other gentlemen should not attack anybody's technical capability if they are really since in helping. That's what this forum is for. They don't know what I know and how much I know. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Justin Jaynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 01:01 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Daniel, You really SHOULD care. I just started a web hosting business on the Linux platform using Tomcat. I had no prior experience using the software and I have read as much as I can in books, but they are always out of date, even when new. Press time is always too long. Open source just keeps getting better so much faster. So an open community forum with the WRITERS of the software is a MODERN MIRACLE. This forum, and Yoav, have been invaluble resources to me. No propiretary software provider would EVER be willing to provide such support. They aren't smart enough and they don't care enough. So if you want, stick with your proprietary solutions and your Technical Support Staff (untrained teenagers and non-english speakers reading general answers to your not-so-general questions). But don't disreguard the ADVICE my friend Yoav gave you on HOW TO USE THE RESOURSE he has offered to you FREE OF CHARGE as a common human courtesy. Listen to him. He knows how to help you help yourself. Justin Jaynes --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't care what your personal views are. I am not a decision maker here. We use apache/tomcat for non-mission critical app. Actually we don't have a choice because the vendor who wrote the code bundled everything with all those open source stuff. Why don't we make this forum simple. If you are willing help, just focus on helping to address specific technical issues and not express your personal opinions about things that are not relevant like attacking somebody's technical know-how, etc.(not you but one of those who reply to my posting). Like KISS...keep it simple and straight to the point. I didn't post the log because I am 99.99 sure that will only see a clean startup message and nothing else. We actually replicated the issue and killing a tomcat PID, sometimes does not release the port it is listening to/or using. I killed the tomcat PID, clear port 8080 and make sure nothing else is using it or holding it and restarted tomcat with my rc2.d script that calls catalina.sh and it solved my issue. I got that idea from one of the good replies I got for this particular issue. My 2 cents. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 11:49 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Hi, Personally, I'd take this support list over any commercial support organization, hands down. But that's just my personal experience as someone who's had to make that decision (commercial versus open-source, paid support versus community support, dedicated support staff versus outsourced, etc.), and live with the consequences, many times over the years, and YMMV ;) In this specific case, no commercial support organization would be able to help you more given the negligible information content you posted. Instead, you'd be dragged along until you posted your logs and/or provided steps to reproduce the problem, and be charged according to your support agreement, so at least you'll have the satisfaction of knowing your $$$ spent on support aren't being completely wasted, only mostly wasted. If the problem happens again, and you provide more details, the probability of you getting concrete help is higher than with the scant details provided in your original post. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:01 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I know all those. I already have our web engineer looked at it and he found nothing from the log so I wouldn't post the log. I guess between you and my web engineer, I will trust his judgement. I am hoping that somebody has seen something like this before and would share what they did. Have you? That's one of the issues with open source as you already know. No support so sometimes you have to rely on user forums for open source stuff. Thanks anyway. Daniel Salud (310)665-6583 Gerardo Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/2004 09:48 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Tomcat Question - HELP I think a UNIX admin should know how
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Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
Can all you people take this bitching contest elsewhere? My 9 year old knows better than to keep this up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:37 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP Let me summarise this thread: 1. You hate all those open source stuff 2. You are not a big fan of tomcat 3. You think we are not educated and professional 4. You will trust your web engineer over our judgement 5. You really don't care what your personal views are 6. You seem to know exactly what this forum is for an how we should run it and behave on it 6. You won't do what you are asked (i.e. post a simple logfile) 7. You seem to think as a Unix admin that killing a process that has an obvious, documented and non-trivial shutdown sequence is a good idea (I'm sure DBA's will love you for this) 8. You publicly admitted to mailing Rick Moen directly for help (great autoreply though ;-) ) What gets me is that everyone who replied to you was civil and helpful. Really, you guys are the greatest! I'm mostly a lurker and I've totally lost control (yes I know: YHBT. YHL. HAND.) Daniel, I just hope for your sake that no potential future employer ever finds this thread on Google (or that you are wisely using an alias). Have a good weekend, Michiel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
