Re: Topband: NCJ Ground Radial Article

2012-02-11 Thread DAVID CUTHBERT
Radials do not affect the angle of radiation. Dave WX7G On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote: Bob, I found the NCJ article (http://www.ncjweb.com/k3lcmaxgainradials.pdf) most interesting - thank you. I wonder if there is also an affect on the angle of

Re: Topband: Radials help

2012-02-11 Thread W2PM
New antenna models arenas ideas for them are one thing, but new laws of physics? It's great to experiment but you can only work around the fundementals. Discovering new principals is always in play, but that is very different from new configurations of metal. Even fractal antenna technology is

Re: Topband: field day CQ 160

2012-02-11 Thread Petr Ourednik
Ludek, congrats for excellent job!!! You arranged very nice setup even although the wx was against as same as condx. Hope to see You on TB soon. 73 - Petr, OK1RP On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:20:42 +0100, Luděk Odehnal OK2ZC OK3C ok...@blansko.net said: web info

Re: Topband: Proper Decorum On The Gentleman's Band...

2012-02-11 Thread James Rodenkirch
I think your take - knowing what the distribution is - is a worthy consideration, Tod. Using a technique called Bernard's approximation and given, oh, six to ten data points, and some graphing paper one could complete a in the ball park analysis of the type of distribution. Is it a Weibull

Re: Topband: Radial question

2012-02-11 Thread Chortek, Robert L
I currently use the spray on my patio, lawn and driveway as a ground system. It works so well I took down my elevated radial system which made my XYL very happy. Now I have a much more efficient antenna AND a much happier wife. I have worked more DX on 160 this season than in all prior years

Re: Topband: Radial question

2012-02-11 Thread W2PM
Amazing. Nano antennas aren't new but this guy presents them in an odd way, as if they form a mystical improvement to normal antennas. His starting comments are telling regarding the implied lossy nature of conventional cell phone antennas as he cites the heat as proof as the lossiness. The

Re: Topband: Radials help

2012-02-11 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi, Trying to get up on top band on my small lot (free of antenna 'covenants') has forced the issue for me. I will be putting up a stick as tall as I can, with some sort of loading/matching, AND, as many radials as I live long enough to put down. That for transmit. I will use separate receive

Re: Topband: Radials help

2012-02-11 Thread W0UCE
Bill: Why struggle with or even bother putting down radials when you can use a Folded Counterpoise? Click on the link below for details: http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html I will be putting up a stick as tall as I can, with some sort of loading/matching, AND, as many

Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array

2012-02-11 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Jack, As the all band demand would increase the load from a 100 users to thousands, I guess it would be up to the system capacity and if the antennas are capable of the bandwidth requirement at one given moment without compromise. Maybe it would be done by subscriptions with on line payment

Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array

2012-02-11 Thread Lee K7TJR
Ag, Herb you have stumbled on to the idea we have joked about here for some time. A pair of 8 element RX arrays for diversity receive served up by subscription on the internet. Located on top the double peaked 1200 foot hill 2 miles south of the shack here of course. I can dream cant

Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array

2012-02-11 Thread W0UCE
That would be great Lee but one system won't be enough, you will need to put up any number of systems so subscribers can be assured what is spotted can be heard in their area... Go for it... 73, Jack -Original Message- From: Lee K7TJR [mailto:k7...@msn.com] Sent: Saturday,

Re: Topband: Radials help

2012-02-11 Thread k2qmf
Hi Jack, Are you saying that the FCP works just as well as an elevated or buried radial field??? I was under the impression that the FCP was just a way to get on 160 when there wasn't room for a radial field... Thanks for any feedback. 73, Ted K2QMF On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:39:35 -0500

Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array

2012-02-11 Thread Lee K7TJR
I just turned my webcam around and snapped a pix of the proposed array location. How can I resist that low take off angle on 160? Dreams, Ah. http://www.k7tjr.com/culver_cam.htm; Lee K7TJR From: W0UCE Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:10 AM To: 'Lee K7TJR' ; he...@vitelcom.net Cc:

Re: Topband: Proper Decorum On The Gentleman's Band...

2012-02-11 Thread Gary Smith
O... I smell a lot of kit building in the future! Gary - KA1J On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM, chacuff chac...@cableone.net wrote: Or move to the new Topband500Khz Exactly. For those that missed it - there is more here:

Re: Topband: Proper Decorum On The Gentleman's Band...

2012-02-11 Thread Gary Smith
I agree. What I don't understand is how people don't understand that UP means transmit up in freq. Yes, some forget to switch Xmit freq call on the DX who is saying UP 3. Got it... but when the police send your call on the DX Xmit freq then tell you to transmit UP in the same breath,

Re: Topband: Radials help

2012-02-11 Thread Rik van Riel
On 02/11/2012 01:12 PM, k2...@juno.com wrote: Hi Jack, Are you saying that the FCP works just as well as an elevated or buried radial field??? I was under the impression that the FCP was just a way to get on 160 when there wasn't room for a radial field... The FCP, and also the double L

Re: Topband: Radials help (Mark van Wijk) At-a-go Herb !!

2012-02-11 Thread Jim F.
I'm with you !   The delete key on the keyboard is for deleting.   But I use the mouse button (open) on this list, and devour every bit of information.   I assume I am in the majority here.  To often we bow to minority opinion, being the gentlemen that we are.   BTW, yesterday morning I called

Re: Topband: Radials help (Mark van Wijk)

2012-02-11 Thread Mark van Wijk
Please do not abuse my wording. Or maybe I need to clarify. I DO welcome any discussion on exsting and new proposed antenna/ground systems. However, discussions tend to be jammed by people throwing in basic theories, papers, even laws of physics from those who seem to oppose a (valid) new idea

Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array

2012-02-11 Thread ZR
. I remember when 160 meter and EME enthusiast Sam Harris (forgot his call) used the Arecibo Space Telescope for moon bounce. His efforts began a whole new resurgence of interest in this communications mode. now even some DX-peditions are trying it. That was the birth of EME, not a

Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array

2012-02-11 Thread ZR
- Original Message - From: Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net To: W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com Cc: 'topband reflector' topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array Jack, As the all band demand

Re: Topband: Radials help (Mark van Wijk)

2012-02-11 Thread Price Smith
Herb, Radio Antenna Engineering, published in 1952. It was written by Edmund Laport. It is available from Lulu Enterprises 3101 Hillsborough Street Raleigh, NC 27607 73 Price W0RI Mark, With all due respect to your comments.I want to know what I am building and why it is worth the

Re: Topband: Radials help (Mark van Wijk)

2012-02-11 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
Public domain edition also available in downloadable Format: http://snulbug.mtview.ca.us/books/RadioAntennaEngineering/ 73 Gary NL7Y Herb, Radio Antenna Engineering, published in 1952. It was written by Edmund Laport. It is available from Lulu Enterprises 3101 Hillsborough Street