Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Steve Ireland
...and that loss of the DX window is sadly, dear readers, why you will seldom hear DX stations outside of Europe and North America CQing on 160m in the CQ contests. We 'search and pounce' and the loud Eu and NA superstations who can hold a frequency benefit. For those not blessed with a

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2012-12-05 Thread Slavek Zeler
Hi Jim confirm half call on the band and finish the on4kst not hamradio. Can you talk on skype its better, no qrm no qsb mostly 59 Slavek . ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com

Topband: fcp question

2012-12-05 Thread james soto
Hello friends i been looking closely at the FCP antenna system. actually a iam using an inverted L antenna,about 126 ft after tuned to 1.4 swr. the vertical portion of the antenna is about 45ft and the other portion in horizontal position. the feet point is at the botton of the vertical portion

Re: Topband: Vertical vs. Shunt-Fed Tower and Detuning

2012-12-05 Thread Ryszard Tymkiewicz
After many frustrating experiences with unwelcome interaction between various 160 antennas and towers, I am thinking about going back to basics by removing all the other 160 wires, and shunt feeding the 110 foot tower (which has a number of yagis on it). All else being equal (such as ground

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread DAVID CUTHBERT
A way to bring back the DX Window is to not work US stations who call CQ in the window. Boycott them if you will. Dave WX7G ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Gary Smith
That is exactly what I did. I bypassed the US/VE stations in there calling CQ. I felt they were being selfish and not part of the fun. Gary KA1J A way to bring back the DX Window is to not work US stations who call CQ in the window. Boycott them if you will. Dave WX7G

Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest -- copying weak ones

2012-12-05 Thread GeorgeWallner
After spending 12 nights-in-a-row straining to hear and assemble thousands of weak calls, I would cautiously agree with Herb: if the DX clearly has the prefix, just send the missing letters. Maybe it is mental, maybe something else, but time and again I heard clearly (almost loud) the

Re: Topband: 3Y0IOF

2012-12-05 Thread Wayne Kline
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Re: Topband: 3Y0IOF

2012-12-05 Thread Wayne Kline
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Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Tom W8JI
...and that loss of the DX window is sadly, dear readers, why you will seldom hear DX stations outside of Europe and North America CQing on 160m in the CQ contests. Bit of a shame really, but that's (so-called) progress. I never understood, and never agreed with the 160 committee abolishing

Re: Topband: one-way propagation

2012-12-05 Thread ZR
It just goes to show that what looks good on paper in theory does not mean it HAS to be the same in the real world. There is nothing to prevent 2 signals a continent away and with different antennas from taking completely different paths when one is at either sunset or sunrise. There hasnt

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Lennart M
W8JI said: I never understood, and never agreed with the 160 committee abolishing the DX window. I thought it showed people with larger stations on the east coast have lost touch with life with smaller stations in difficult areas. It is much like billionaires making rules for the middle class

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Eddy Swynar
On 2012-12-05, at 11:33 AM, Lennart M wrote: Well, from a DX perspective I do not care much about band differenciation, we do have equal distance to Far East and the Pacific as to SA, NA east coast being close by and when 160 opens to NA west coast and KL7/KH6 they are good enough to break

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Bill Cromwell
So there is confused information about DX windows and digital windows and callig windows and useless windows. Once upon a time there was something called gentlemen's agreements and the DX window was part of that. Most of us don't really let the ARRL dictate to us what we will or won't do. So we

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
It is much like billionaires making rules for the middle class and working poor. It's also like those who don't pay income tax deciding how much those who pay income taxes should pay and how those taxes are spent or those who don't own property determining how much those who own property

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Chortek, Robert L
On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Bill Cromwell wrcromw...@gmail.com wrote: So what is this DX window? 1825 to 1830 kc? If that's where the DX calls and transmits then where do W/VE stations transmit in reply? The idea is that W/VE stations do not call CQ in the window, but can respond to a DX

Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest -- copying weak ones

2012-12-05 Thread Markus Hansen
I had this happen many times as well but it is especially annoying near the end of the contest when seeking to find those last few contacts that I heard fellows calling CQ and only sending their call ONCE and then maybe waiting 2 sec. or less before sending CQ again. Many times I could copy

Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest -- copying weak ones

2012-12-05 Thread Doug Renwick
George, IMO you have solved the problem ... mental. Your last sentence describes the condition exactly ... your brain goes blank or slows as a defence mechanism from all the noise/signals on the band. Doug -Original Message- After spending 12 nights-in-a-row straining to hear and

Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest -- copying weak ones

2012-12-05 Thread Tom W8JI
I had this happen many times as well but it is especially annoying near the end of the contest when seeking to find those last few contacts that I heard fellows calling CQ and only sending their call ONCE and then maybe waiting 2 sec. or less before sending CQ again. 160, with changing noise

Re: Topband: one-way propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Peter Sundberg
Last weekend was (finally) a return of over-the-pole conditions in my QTH, similar to what we experienced frequently in 2009 and 2010. I could hear western NA stations ALL day here, some with very good signals despite full daylight at my end. They did not fade out until sunrise over there 14.00

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Tom W8JI
So there is confused information about DX windows and digital windows and callig windows and useless windows. Once upon a time there was something called gentlemen's agreements and the DX window was part of that. Most of us don't really let the ARRL dictate to us what we will or won't do. So we

Topband: Non-reciprocity of path and checking polarization

2012-12-05 Thread Tom W8JI
Here's some things to think about when we think we know polarization or polarization tilt, or non-reciprocal propagation or paths: 1.) When receiving, antenna response to the desired signal compared to antenna response to noise determines copy, NOT the gain or absolute signal level. An

Re: Topband: one-way propagation

2012-12-05 Thread Carl Clawson
On my 80 meter NTS net last evening (1830 local time) I noticed that the critical frequency had dropped below 3.5 MHz. I could barely hear some stations that were only 40 miles away and my neighbor Claire N7CM reported that she heard no one but me. (No problem working 5T0SP, however, which

Re: Topband: 3Y0IOF

2012-12-05 Thread Joe K2UF
I received a '3Y0IOF' QSL card for each band and mode for the up coming DXpedition. The instructions say when I first hear them on any band/mode (optional) just fill in the time. Boy!! This sure beats having to suffer through several days of cops and tuner uppers. 73 Joe K2UF With enough

Re: Topband: Spam:****, Re: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest -- copying weak ones

2012-12-05 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Doug, Then my digital recording (Adobe Audition) possesses a similar mental capacity? No! I edit out the prefix and create a loop after deleting the prefix from the recording. There is a noticeable disappearance into the noise after stations, and I have check over 50 so far, have sent

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Ian Wade G3NRW
___Original Message_ From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 Time: 12:54:35 Without working together, we need the Government to make rules and impose penalties. Tom I'm not sure that Government intervention is a very good idea (it

Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest -- copying weak ones

2012-12-05 Thread Doug Renwick
Thanks Herb, That certainly removes the operator condition from the explanation. It will be interesting to discover why the transmissions tail off. Is it repeatable? For example if the same station keeps sending their call between your HB9? does it consistently tail off each time they transmit

Re: Topband: DX WINDOW

2012-12-05 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 11:47 -0700, Milt -- N5IA wrote: All JA stations worked called me on my Run frequencies within the 'JA Window'. CU all in the SPDC. 73 de Milt, N5IA, op at N7GP The JA window? 73, Bill KU8H ___ Topband reflector -

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Gary Smith
snip Three verifiable complaints and you're out should be the rule. With SDR receivers available these days, that shouldn't be too difficult to police. -- 73 Ian, G3NRW I'm not so sure I like the 3 strikes policy. My reasoning is lets say some AH wanted for instance, to discredit stiff

Topband: Copying weak signals

2012-12-05 Thread Ralph Parker
my digital recording (Adobe Audition) possesses a similar mental capacity? There is a noticeable disappearance into the noise after... Having spent over 45 years recording sound, I agree that the signal level decrease is real. And easy to see on good recording software. ...once thought that

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Steve HA0DU
Dear TopBanders, My license says CW can be used from 1810 kHz up to the end of the band. However, no Phone modes are allowed below 1840 kHz. I am sure most European licenses are similar. IARU Region 1 bandplan says all modes between 1810 kHz and the upper end of the band - so let's talk ONLY

Re: Topband: DX WINDOW

2012-12-05 Thread Peter Voelpel
1810-1825 and 1907.7-1912.5 is allocated in Japan (CW only) 73 Peter, DJ7WW -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cromwell The JA window? ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com

Topband: buried radials vs radials on the ground

2012-12-05 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I had always understood that because of coupling, radials laid on the ground were functionally the same on top-band as those buried a few inches. Recently, some experimentation with Beverage on ground antennas has me doubting that. It's been suggested that elevated radials need to be

Re: Topband: Spam:****, Re: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
On 12/5/2012 4:29 PM, Steve HA0DU wrote: Why can't the mazochists contesting on 160 SSB have the whole band for 6 days in a year? *Well they can **and they do*! It doesn't seem to bother many. My problem is I have to re-peak my ATU at the tower for much over 1855 and there are are

Re: Topband: DX WINDOW

2012-12-05 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 21:39 +0100, Peter Voelpel wrote: 1810-1825 and 1907.7-1912.5 is allocated in Japan (CW only) 73 Peter, DJ7WW Thank you Peter, That's useful information here. I now know how to stay out of the way AND... I know where to look for them. 73, Bill KU8H

Re: Topband: Phone contests on 160?

2012-12-05 Thread Shoppa, Tim
On 12/5/2012 4:29 PM, Steve HA0DU wrote: Why can't the mazochists contesting on 160 SSB have the whole band for 6 days in a year? *Well they can **and they do*! It doesn't seem to bother many. My problem is I have to re-peak my ATU at the tower for much over 1855 and there are are stations

Re: Topband: DX WINDOW

2012-12-05 Thread Milt -- N5IA
Bill, As Peter has responded, there are two JA windows; 1810-1825 and 1907.7-1912.5 . Until a few years ago the JA hams only had the upper 1907.7-1912.5 allocation. Because the band was segmented in much of the world most international contacts on 160 Meters were done split frequency.

Re: Topband: DX WINDOW

2012-12-05 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi Milt, It sure helps me. I don't make any bones about new to 160. My antenna and my transmitter have been giving me a lot of grief so I have had only a few QSOs...maybe a couple dozen. I am not a seasoned professional on top band. I'm just an amateur. My license even says so (evil grin). So far

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Darrell Bellerive
Being unencumbered by knowledge of contest log reporting and checking perhaps I am missing something. Since virtually all contest stations use automated logging programs and these programs could get the actual transmit frequency directly from the transceiver as the contact is logged, then why

Re: Topband: DX window

2012-12-05 Thread Gary Smith
It does. Here's me with cabrillo format working herb he was in the DX window. QSO: 1830 CW 2012-12-01 0323 KA1J 599 VP2V/AA7V 599 VP2-V QSO: 1833 CW 2012-12-01 0339 KA1J 599 KV4FZ 599 VI QSO: 1833 CW 2012-12-01 0342 KA1J 599 OL7M 599 OL Freq 1.833 for Herb KV4FZ Sorry