Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread k1fz
The resistance sounds about right Martin. Most of the conductivity comes from the copper strands. Steel strands have high mechanical strength, but poor conductivity. I square R loss is low as signal current is very low. 73 Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html     The

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Tom W8JI
I square R loss is low as signal current is very low. Thinking I^2 R with low current (because of being in a small signal application) might mislead us. The absolute value of current would just tell us conductor heat, if we actually knew RF resistance (which is always higher than dc

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Tim Shoppa
That would be the right ballpark. 3 paralleled strands of 29 AWG copper running for 400m would be 36 ohms. 3 paralleled strands of 30 AWG copper running for 400M would be 45 ohms. (Usually when I do these calculations for traction power networks we are paralleling multiple 600 or 1000kcmil

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Waters
One thing that would affect RF conductor resistance is the paramagnetic properties of the conductor. If, for example, it was bare iron or magnetic steel wire, then we would have eddy current losses. And those losses could very well be much larger than the ohmic losses measured at DC. The wire

Re: Topband: ARRL 160m contest and DX Window?

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Waters
Thanks for all the replies. I'm finally beginning to realize that the DX Window was for an earlier time when 160m band allocations were much different. I see that there's nothing about any window for the Stew at http://www.kkn.net/stew/stew.rules.txt I assume that unless contest rules explicitly

Re: Topband: ARRL 160m contest and DX Window?

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Waters
Thank you, Petr. Some of this is mentioned at http://www.pacificdxpedition.com/download/160m-frequencies.pdf which I have hanging next to my radio. The 1830-1835 DX Window is on that chart, and that's one of the reasons I had this stuck in my head. :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Tue, Dec 2, 2014

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Mike Waters
I didn't realize that what I mentioned was on Owen's new site. For example, a 0.5mm diameter mild steel wire has skin depth of 0.006mm at 1.8MHz, and as explained at http://owenduffy.net/calc/SkinDepth.htm , Rrf/Rdc is approximately diameter/(4*δ), so 0.5/(4*0.006)=21... RF resistance is 21 times

Re: Topband: ARRL 160m contest and DX Window?

2014-12-03 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hi Peter I don ´t think so. :) I have just 2x BOGs, 1x Hi-Z vertical and MiniDiamond W2PM loop all connected to wireless antenna switch. If You will add the time for tunning around frequency using RIT + playing with four rx antennas and tx antenna then You have about 5sec... Well of course

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Martin
Topbanders, thank you for your comments. Looks like this wire was a good choice (in fact, i couldn't resist as it was free), many use it for their beverages. Thank you all. Now back to the shop building that switchbox. Hear you soon. -- Ohne CW ist es nur CB.. 73, Martin DM4iM

Re: Topband: Rig Comparisons

2014-12-03 Thread Robert Smits
On Monday, July 28, 2014 10:00:36 PM Jim Brown wrote: Online chatter about what rigs were used at WRTC and why got me to pursuing something that's been bugging me for a long time -- the band pollution produced by many of today's transmitters. K6XX tackled it in talk to NCCC last fall, and over

Topband: RTTY on 160 meters

2014-12-03 Thread KE1F Lou
Is there an officially designated frequency band for RTTY operation in the U.S.? 73 Lou KE1F _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Topband: Nesting of four squares

2014-12-03 Thread David Raymond
For about a decade I used a K8UR/bent dipole four square array on 80m. The array was supported from the 120' guy ring of my rotating tower and was a great performer. Several years ago I took it down, mainly for some environmental (no not global warming) and logistical reasons, and decided to

Re: Topband: RTTY on 160 meters

2014-12-03 Thread Tim Shoppa
Are you asking because of the upcoming TARA RTTY Melee that seems to include 160M? Many band plans (e.g. ARRL's) show RTTY concentrating in 1.80-1.81. I have 15 RTTY 160M QSO's in my log almost all from W1AW/portables this year. They tend to cluster in 1.805-1.810 and 1.840-1.845. But with ARRL

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Tom W8JI
One thing that would affect RF conductor resistance is the paramagnetic properties of the conductor. If, for example, it was bare iron or magnetic steel wire, then we would have eddy current losses. And those losses could very well be much larger than the ohmic losses measured at DC. Copper has

Re: Topband: Restistance of wire

2014-12-03 Thread Tom W8JI
I would not worry too much about 40 ohms resistance in a 600 ohm impedance antenna that already has an intentional terminating resistance at the end. Although I've never modeled what happens when the resistance is somewhat distributed instead of lumped at the end, probably some loss in