Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread F Z_Bruce
Steve, Think you are doing a great job considering the lot size.Never know what else is in the mix. The power line neutral (ground) may. be helping Someone years ago fastened to a metal sewer line. 73 Bruce-k1fz https://www.qsl.net/k1fz/beverage_antenna.html On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 19:36:13

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread daraymond
Any antenna can work. . . it's a question of degree. -Original Message- From: Steve Lawrence Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:36 PM To: John Harden, D.M.D. Cc: daraym...@iowatelecom.net ; topband@contesting.com ; cfytech24x7 Subject: Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower 217 DXCC 36

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread Steve Lawrence via Topband
217 DXCC 36 Zones. Shunt fed tower. No radials. West Coast city lot. I can only imagine my totals if it really worked. 73 Steve WB6RSE > On Sep 15, 2018, at 5:42 PM, John Harden, D.M.D. wrote: > > A shunt fed tower requires radials period. It cannot work without them! > > 73, > > John,

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread John Harden, D.M.D.
A shunt fed tower requires radials period. It cannot work without them! 73, John, W4NU Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2018, at 1:55 PM, > wrote: > > It makes no difference how the tower is fed, a vertical antenna must have > radials of some kind to be effective. 73. . .Dave, W0FLS

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread Steve Lawrence via Topband
Hi Mike - Yes no doubt that radials, any radials, would at the least not hurt. My house is literally surrounded by concrete and brick. IE no digging to plant radials. I did try a couple of full length radials attached at the tower and snaked around the perimeter of the house for part of a

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread Mike Waters
Hi Steve, It sounds like you have done *much* better on 160 than I --and a lot of other Topbanders-- have, *and from such a small lot*! It sounds like you have exceptionally good ground conductivity. In any case, I believe that you would have done even better (is that possible? ;-) if you had

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread JC
Hi Guys, here my two cents. Radials are important to increase the power gain. The directivity gain is the same. More efficiency means more irradiated power, just it. Steve TX antenna may have 50 % efficiency. It means using a 1 Kw only 500w is irradiated. The ground type is responsible for low

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread Steve Lawrence via Topband
My shunt fed tower has no radials. Two 8 ft copper ground rods were driven into the soil when the tower base was installed. Heavy gauge wire was used to attach the rods to the tower base bolts. There is simply no place for any radials on my postage stamp size West Coast city lot. I believe my

Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread lee
Chuck, I would disagree with you that tower shunt feeding avoids needing radials. Any vertical antenna without some kind of counterpoise will be disadvantaged unless it is close to 1/2 wavelength long. Even then some sort of radials are best. A shunt fed tower does indeed need a good

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread daraymond
It makes no difference how the tower is fed, a vertical antenna must have radials of some kind to be effective. 73. . .Dave, W0FLS -Original Message- From: cfytech24x7 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 11:29 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Use shunt fed tower A

Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread Mike Waters
Hello Chuck, On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 11:30 AM cfytech24x7 wrote: > A shunt fed tower is a vertical antenna so it offers lowest take off > angle. True. 160m is a band for vertical polarization if we want to work DX. See www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html . Shunt feeding avoids need for radial

Topband: Use shunt fed tower

2018-09-15 Thread cfytech24x7
A shunt fed tower is a vertical antenna so it offers lowest take off angle. Shunt feeding avoids need for radial field.  Any horizontal wire antenna is going to put most of your radiated energy out at high angles, unless you can get it at least a half wavelength of height.  A loop may be a

Re: Topband: Call for antenna ideas

2018-09-15 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 9/14/2018 10:28 AM, Simon Ravnič via Topband wrote: At S53M contest station we are well organized for 40m & up but are lacking lower band TX antennas. I suggest 2 element vertical arrays phased for a cardioid pattern such that the nearest tower is directly off the back. This takes

Re: Topband: Call for antenna ideas

2018-09-15 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
Mike, you suggested a delta loop. It is important that if Simon decides to hang a delta loop between towers that you feed it a the corner rather than at the bottom. This should give you some vertical component at a much lower take-off angle rather than being a clod warmer on 80 meters.