Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Grant Saviers
ZL3IX I think by accident had a fence with a break in it. My not working Beverage was 4'up over a continuous welded wire fence. Then some NEC2 modeling of a 600' Beverage 6' above a continuous 3 wire (wires at 2,3, & 4') barb wire fence, showed poor F/B. Mine was worse over the welded 6"x 6"

Re: Topband: BOG questions

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Lunday
This is interesting. Thanks for sharing, Mikek. I put down 200 feet of insulated wire BOG pointed at EU, just set it down on the ground...sometimes over a fallen small tree but almost always within 12 inches of ground. I fed it with 75 ohm TV cable. I did not terminate it, and I used a KD9SV

Re: Topband: 160m Season Has Begun Here

2019-08-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Sig One of the few things I miss about living in New England (don't miss it enough to own a snow shovel again), Is the 160/80 path to EU My theory is LA/SM/OH and OJ0 all have a really "long" gray line. right now. What time did you work OJ0O ?� I just finished my "prototype" N/S R-BOG

Topband: Modeling close to earth ( was Odd-ball question)

2019-08-24 Thread Artek Manuals
Chuck et all It is well documented that the the NEC-2 based programs leave something to be desired� with wires on or very near the ground, This includes most of the EZENEC� family and MMANA-G� Purportedly NEC-4 ( there is a Ezenec version which runs with NEC 4 engine ... not a cheap date)

Topband: 160m Season Has Begun Here

2019-08-24 Thread k1zm--- via Topband
Hi There Two days ago I hooked up the 160m antenna and can report that the season is off to a start - at least here it is. Two pages of Eu stations on CW, 5T5 on FT8 - and OJ0O last night also on CW - RST 599 on 1824. For some reason the LA's and SM's and OH's are the best signals at this time

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
My own experience is that a fence does not degrade the Bev pattern too much as long as the Bev is sufficiently high above the fence wire. I mount my wires about 3 m above the fence. I have never modelled an inductively-loaded Beverage, but my intuition is that it will not perform any better

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Mike Waters
As long as the fence is pointed in the right direction. :-) www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html#Misc_Beverage_antenna_notes On this page, there are some links to ZL3IX (?) experiences with his Beverages mounted at different heights above metal fences. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Aug 24,

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Chuck Dietz
And, by the way, K5GN and W5KU report that their Beverage above a barbed wire fence is the BEST Beverage at their place. Chuck W5PR On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Chuck Dietz wrote: > I seem to remember someone saying the modelling programs are unreliable > when a wire is close to the

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Mike Waters
Good point, Chuck! You are absolutely right. I would have modeled it above the ground, at least at first. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 12:41 PM Chuck Dietz wrote: > I seem to remember someone saying the modelling programs are unreliable > when a wire is close to the ground.

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Chuck Dietz
I seem to remember someone saying the modelling programs are unreliable when a wire is close to the ground. Also, there is really no way to model the properties of "ground." It can vary in just a few feet and the moisture content varies from day to day. I think this is a "try it" kind of antenna.

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Mikek
 The trick is to take the dc control winding and it's inductance out of the antenna circuit, which I think can be done with a large bypass capacitor. Here's a simple drawing. The BOG goes to antenna in, through the .47uF cap (Xc=.67ohms at 500kHz, 0.1 ohm at 4Mhz) through variable

Re: Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Mike Waters
The only way to predict the RDF and pattern is by modeling it. I don't know of anyone who has done this. I have a few of my .ez Beverage models in w0btu.com/files/ as a starting point, but I don't think that I uploaded everything there. There are free antenna modeling programs out there. I have

Topband: An oddball question about a BOG.

2019-08-24 Thread Mikek
But what did you mean by "proper pattern"? I should have said, the best pattern that adjusting the Inductive loads will provide. Yes, I understand the pattern changes with frequency. What I want to do is inductively load the antenna, so it will have the same pattern as if we increased the

Re: Topband: 160 meter antenna possibilities

2019-08-24 Thread GEORGE WALLNER
Byron, I would go with the T (and a good radial field). George, AA7JV/C6AGU On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:14:13 + (UTC) Byron Tatum wrote: Hello-   I hope I do not intrude too much here for a little advice about 160 meter antenna choices. I am getting settled in to my new QTH and am in process

Topband: 160 meter antenna possibilities

2019-08-24 Thread Byron Tatum
Hello-    I hope I do not intrude too much here for a little advice about 160 meter antenna choices. I am getting settled in to my new QTH and am in process of getting antenna systems put up. I have a 30' x 50' metal shop building, the 50' length running east/west, sitting on about 4 acres

Re: Topband: Fan dipole ruins 160 rx ?

2019-08-24 Thread S57AD
Ciao Rik, I don't think fan dipole would contribute to 160 receiving, on the other hand, 160m legs will decrease useable bandwidth of 80 & 40m dipoles. Have been there, done that! 73, Mirko, S57AD V V sob., 24. avg. 2019 ob 08:08 je oseba Riccardo Negro napisala: > Hi all, no experience to

Re: Topband: Fan dipole ruins 160 rx ?

2019-08-24 Thread Riccardo Negro
Hi all, no experience to share on the subject ? Thanks. Rik, IK2CAW Inviato da Samsung Note. _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector