Grant wrote:
>>> If you really want to know the parameters, see antennasbyn6lf.com as Rudy
>>> describes techniques for ground RF properties measuring.
Turns out that very subject was being kicked around on a recent qrz.com thread:
On 3/23/2020 6:23 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
Where I live, the soil is 100% clay and the RF conductivity is
high. Ten miles to the south, the soil is regular dirt.
Vastly better for growing anything, even weeds. But the RF
conductivity is considerable lower.
A casual observer
On 3/23/2020 9:05 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
Excellent skin depth reference here:
www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/ground_skin_depth_and_wavelength.pdf
Rudy is a great reference for anything he's chosen to study. An
excellent engineer and scientist.
Ground characteristics are much more
Or RG8U confirmed on 6 bands
John k9uwa
On 23 Mar 2020 at 17:45, Mike Waters wrote:
> How about 5Y3GT? ;-)
>
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oops...
It was W2MF who vanished from 160 meter DXCC
A few weeks ago he was #296
Apologies to Brian N2MF #255
73
Frank
W3LPL
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From: donov...@starpower.net
To: Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:08:11 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: DXCC
N2MF also vanished from the 160 meter DXCC listings...
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From: "Ken Claerbout"
To: Topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: DXCC Committe
I don't wish to drag this debate out any longer than necessary, but
some credit
Excellent skin depth reference here:
www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/ground_skin_depth_and_wavelength.pdf
Ground characteristics are much more significant for vertical polarization
than for horizontal polarization.
73
Frank
W3LPL
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From: "Richard (Rick)
I have saved all (I think) of Rudy's papers on antennas and ground. What a
resource.
He seems to have boundless energy, patience and perseverance.
Wes N7WS
On 3/23/2020 6:23 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
N6LF has developed techniques for measuring your ground
parameters by
Thank you all for your very helpful and informative responses.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond.
Much appreciated!
73,
Bob/AA6VB
Robert L. Chortek
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Hi Dave,
I’m hearing bursts of distorted audio right now on 1830.0 KHZ (it comes and
goes). Bursts peak about 10db over my noise floor.
I’m hearing it on my pennant pointing 40 degrees from near Indianapolis
(02:30UTC).
Don
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:43 PM David Olean wrote:
> I turned on my
Jarda, since the DXC people returned the card, perhaps you can scan and post
it so that all might see the "damaged' section?
VE7SL Steve
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WEB - "The VE7SL Radio Notebook": http://qsl.net/ve7sl/
A source close to Romeo, Dimitri, a well known DXer of several rare entities
told me quite with a commanding knowledge of the P5RS7 DXpedition “case” that
the disqualification of that DXpedition was a “hatchet job” to protect several
big time #1 honor roll members who didn’t know, or take the
On 3/23/2020 3:01 PM, Chortek, Robert L. wrote:
A quick question for the collective wisdom on this esteemed reflector:
How would one categorize the quality of ground consisting of grass. For
example, if you live next to a large (many acres) open space made entirely of
well watered grass,
FYI some data which I found interesting
My dry earth at end of summer to very wet winter (WWA) causes my
lightning ground system DC (actually about 300Hz AC) resistance to vary
about 40% lower, ie 7+ ohms to 5 ohms. There was also significant
differences from rod to rod re resistance
Robert,
an EZNEC model of your vertical as described in your QRZ bio shows your
measured 29.7 ohm input resistance when ground conductivity is set to *0.008
S/m*. EZNEC calls this (0.0075S/12) ground *flat, marshy, densely wooded*.
Using 0.005/13 ground EZNEC reports 35 ohms.
Dave KH6AQ
On
AA6VB, QTH San Jose, California looks like *8 mS/m*
FCC ground conductivity map
https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/m3-ground-conductivity-map
A more detailed map
https://www.americanradiohistory.com/FCC_Ground_Conductivity_Maps.htm
1 skin depth t 1.8 MHz in 8 mS/m soil is ~4 meters
Dave KH6AQ
Hi Dave,
I’m (just) starting to play with EZNEC and want to know what type of ground I’m
dealing with when I’m running various models.
I live on the second fairway of a.golf course and the way it’s configured I
have literally 1/2 to 1 1/2 miles of grass in certain directions.
It’s watered
You may find this interesting.
https://ham.stackexchange.com/a/14799/8717
How useful it is, is another matter! ;-)
73, Mike
W0BTU
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 5:02 PM Chortek, Robert L. <
robert.chor...@berliner.com> wrote:
>
> How would one categorize the quality of ground consisting of grass. For
>
How about 5Y3GT? ;-)
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 4:45 PM George Dubovsky wrote:
> > This would give new meaning to the 'oldie' WFWL. I never heard of a
> > "Slim" confirming a contact.
> >
> > Perhaps you never heard of P5RS7. I've got a card.
> >
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On 160M the " skin depth" of ground goes beyond the grass ...so it
depends on more than just your yard but also the type of soil
underneath, how often it is watered , fertilized etc etc.
What are you trying to do that you need to know?
Dave
NR1DX
On 3/23/2020 6:01 PM, Chortek, Robert L.
Wow! The guy should have been DQed ages ago.
On 3/23/2020 1:43 PM, Bill Tippett wrote:
FYI:
http://g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html
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A quick question for the collective wisdom on this esteemed reflector:
How would one categorize the quality of ground consisting of grass. For
example, if you live next to a large (many acres) open space made entirely of
well watered grass, would that qualify as “average ground“, “above average
On 2020-03-23 17:45, George Dubovsky wrote:
Perhaps you never heard of P5RS7. I've got a card.
Yes, I did.
The term "Slim" has a different meaning then. To me, the "Slim" is the
'funny' guy that answers the deserving pretending to be the DX.
In the case you describe, it was not a "Slim"
> This would give new meaning to the 'oldie' WFWL. I never heard of a
> "Slim" confirming a contact.
>
> Perhaps you never heard of P5RS7. I've got a card.
>
73,
geo - n4ua
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I don't wish to drag this debate out any longer than necessary, but
some credit is due the League and the DXCC desk. I was contacted some
time back asking for a section of one of my DX logs. I gave them the
whole thing. Check as many QSO's as you like. I have no idea if this
had anything to do
>>>*IF*, before LoTW came on-line, a "Slim" sent a ham a confirmation
card, and it was found to be bogus, would that disqualify the ham from
any future admission to the DXCC or greater club ?
This would give new meaning to the 'oldie' WFWL. I never heard of a
"Slim" confirming a contact.
I
I was under the impression the DXCC desk disqualified the OP for
suspecting that a doctored card had been submitted for a bogus contact.
I was wrong, my apologies.
There is no reason to disqualify a 'supplicant' simply for submitting a
"mildly damaged" card.
I'm waiting for the posting
I don't "chase paper", so forgive me if this has already been addressed
*IF*, before LoTW came on-line, a "Slim" sent a ham a confirmation
card, and it was found to be bogus, would that disqualify the ham from
any future admission to the DXCC or greater club ?
Don W4DNR
Bill Tippett mailto:btippett%40alum.mit.edu> >
FYI:
http://g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html
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wow..just wow...no other words are needed.
wow
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1/Y/ou want to say that such a tricky way (presenting a fake card
without an application) should go unpunished? //
//Nick, UY0ZG /¨ Nick Nick you must hate me very much Hi. There was no
trick in my intention. We should imagine that the log of KH3C/KH5 was
re-write to electronic form long time
FYI:
http://g3txf.com/dxtrip/Fake-C21XF/Fake-C21.html
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>> 2) He did not submit a signed application but only asked for an
opinion about the card.
Why was an opinion needed? It was a DXCC accepted activation, was it not?
Perhaps paper confirmation should no longer be accepted. Yes, collusion
can easy beat any LoTW security, but it would avoid the
Wes
You want to say that such a tricky way (presenting a fake card without
an application) should go unpunished?
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Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
Wes писал 2020-03-23 19:35:
Based upon the supplied communications, it's unclear to me whether
there was an actual application made
Wes
You want to say that such a tricky way (presenting a fake card without
an application) should go unpunished?
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Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
Wes писал 2020-03-23 19:35:
Based upon the supplied communications, it's unclear to me whether
there was an actual application made
Based upon the supplied communications, it's unclear to me whether there was an
actual application made along with the submitted card or not. Jarda claims not,
but based on the disqualification, if it followed its own rules, ARRL must have
received one because...
The DXCC AWARD APPLICATION
Jarda,
As I understand the email string you submitted to this list, a card
confirmation you submitted was in question so the DXCC desk checked the
DXPedition's log, which they have a copy of, and your QSO is not in the
log. If you believe the QSO was valid I would recommend you contact the
For some reason the classic game Jenga comes to mind.
73 de Vince, VA3VF
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Why don't you take photos of all your Jarvis card close up so we can see
for ourselves. How could you have received a card for a contact that
does not appear in their log. To you have the Jarvis logs to prove you
are in them? Can we see those logs?
All decisions of the DXCC desk are final.
O.K. guys.
watching the discussion about " my matter " and let me specify that
material QSL is exactly same as I have from other band it means there is
a label over clean basic QSL confirmed over by original QSL manager
stamp. The label do not cover any other data below it. It is therefore
Well let me be the 2nd then to comment,
Its clear as friggin day, guy sent in a doctored card, pasted a
printer label
over the top of a QSO for another band, ARRL saw it in person and said
"Fake" card, and disqualified him
His gripe is he was just sending it to "test" them to check it
The annual Spring time QRN has arrived. This does not mean the band is
dead as it is always open somewhere. Here in Arizona the path to EU is
almost gone with the last EU contact being John, SM5EDX. Some southern
EU is possible but noise levels are making it more difficult.
While I enjoy the
M A Y B E this started out on topic about topband
My delete key is getting annoyed. How about take the DXCC desk practices discussion - and the language
lessons - elsewhere
Robin WA6CDR
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From: "Mike Smith VE9AA"
To: ;
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 05:33
No worries Mark. Dank u vel.
Perhaps I have interpreted his facts (as presented) incorrectly. I do not
know.
That's why I prefaced my initial message with:
"... OK, so let me get this straight:..." (which is an open invite to
correct me)
It would be really good to know why the Doctored card was
Hi Mike
Please forgive my blunt words, but It's about your tone what is bothering
me.
I see that all too often happening on this list.
You are the first one responding here on his message.
Surely one could ask OK1RD some questions, pass some information/experience
on topic?
OK1RD in the end,
I'm not sure what your beef is with me , Mark/PA5MW.
All I did was summarize his emails and brought no extra facts, opinions or
innuendo's into play.
I jumped to no conclusions. I asked a question at the end (the hail-mary
bit)
He started this, not me.
In the end, he's the guy that has to look
OK, so let me get this straight:
You sent the DXCC desk a Doctored card ==> *check* (that was clearly
explained up front)
got busted ==> negative contribution (that is the 'fact' needing to be
peer-reviewed)
then claimed you didn't send it ==> your interpretation
(you just wanted them
Hi
You are a very strange man Jarda...
You wanted to have 349 countries and provided a fake card ..
There is a wise Russian proverb - "greed killed the fraer"
Maybe I translated badly. In Russian :
" Жадность фраера сгубила."
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Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
Jarda писал 2020-03-23
OK, so let me get this straight.
You sent the DXCC desk a Doctored card, got busted, then claimed you didn't
send it (you just wanted them to admire your skills?), got kicked out of the
DXCC program and are now mad about it, so are throwing a Hail-Mary so
someone here might help?
I think
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