Very nice, Eric! I missed that while being evac'd for the fires. Just
moved back in after 8 weeks. Would the results be comparable on 160M?
73, Jim K9YC
On 10/9/2020 4:45 PM, Eric NO3M wrote:
The new FST4 mode has almost completely superseded JT9 on 630 and 2200m,
the only remaining JT9
On 10/9/2020 4:09 PM, Wes wrote:
If you don't like Roger's posts, hit the delete key for all of them and
go on about your life.
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73, Jim K9YC
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That plus the bandwidth of 160M antennas were probably taken into account in
the decision to put it at 1.840. Moving the FT8 frequency much higher would
shut a lot of the CW guys that like both modes.
73,
Bill WE5P
Comfortably Numb
> On Oct 9, 2020, at 19:48, Mail 10 wrote:
>
> I rarely
hi all,
last night was my first effort at top band for this season. i worked 10 EU
stations on CW. only one was a new one but i dont care. it's just fun being
heard in EU from the "almost west coast". mostly nice to renew acquaintances
with old friends.
i have no interest in digital modes but
The new FST4 mode has almost completely superseded JT9 on 630 and 2200m,
the only remaining JT9 signals being from those that missed the
announcement / release or are waiting on a general availability
release. The advantages over JT9 are numerous, including use of 'a
priori' (as used with
I rarely see CW activity much above 1830 kHz. The only issue I see from
time to time is SSB interference to the 1840 kHz FT8 channel.
VK band is 1800 - 1875 kHz. If a particular mode were moved above 1900
kHz, some here would miss out. We would have to do what JA FT8 ops did
until recently
Good grief. I fail to see any whining. If you don't like Roger's posts, hit
the delete key for all of them and go on about your life.
Wes N7WS
On 10/9/2020 3:31 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
We see an announcement about "activity night" on Wednesday. (which borders
on begging and cajoling
We see an announcement about "activity night" on Wednesday. (which borders
on begging and cajoling at times)
Every Thursday into Friday we see complaints from the same individual
talking about the lack of activity, where were you guys, do you have QRN or
whatever.(aka 'guilt trip')
It gets
Roger, That was not my intention. Sorry about that. I only included you're text
so I could answer you about USA and our stations. I know you have not said
anything about FT-8. 73 Fred KB4QZH
Original message From: Roger Kennedy
Date: 10/9/20 5:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To:
On 10/9/2020 2:04 PM, Roger Kennedy wrote:
But this topic was aimed at people (like me) who have no desire to use such
computer-based modes, to point out that there ARE quite a few stations
regularly on CW looking for DX contacts on 160m.
Hi Roger,
I can't speak for others, but I fail to see
At no point in these posts have I criticised people who want to use FT8 . .
. each to their own as far as I'm concerned.
But this topic was aimed at people (like me) who have no desire to use such
computer-based modes, to point out that there ARE quite a few stations
regularly on CW looking
In Region 1 there is no 160m band above 1900 for most countries.
1840 is a good place, it only takes 2.5kHz of spectrum.
Anyway as there are no cw stations at all most of the 160m band is not
used most of the time.
I did try to cq on cw some weeks ago when I did have holidays but no
We had some really good discussion on this reflector in the past week or
two.
"Common mode choking","RX Power over Coax","Receive ant binocular
cores","Super Kaz delta,"Waller Flag".
And now we are back to the very boring topic... "Ft-8 Is Killing Amateur
Radio"
Just let it go
Roger I
DELETE, DELETE DELETE
AT LEAST CHANGE TO SUBJECT LINE ON THE THREAD IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO
TURN THIS INTO A FT8 BASHING SESSION , WHICH AS I RECALL THE
MODERATOR/LIST OWNER BANNED LAST YEAR
TALK ABOUT A WASTE OF BANDWIDTH
DAVE
On 10/9/2020 1:02 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 10/9/2020 7:54 AM,
On 10/9/2020 7:54 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
Well, FT8 does some really good things that typical CW operation doesn’t
usually want to bother with.
1) use of a calling frequency (“SSB” “carrier” frequency)
2) constant monitoring
3) highly efficient use of VERY close frequencies. Never needs
Hi
However, everything is much more complicated ..
The activity of North Americans is highly dependent on the activity of
Europe.
Americans undoubtedly want many different correspondents.
But there is no activity from Europe.
There are many reasons -
lack of money, interference from
I don't consider it whining . . . I'm just trying to encourage more people
to come on the band.
If that happens, then there WILL be more CW activity !
I just figure that there may be people who read this Reflector that aren't
aware that there are many of us on the band, staying up late most
On 10/9/2020 8:26 AM, VE6WZ_Steve wrote:
There is still a great deal of CW activity on 160m !
What we need is more guys calling CQ and less just listening and saying that no
one is active!
In the Summer Stew, I enjoyed a good rate for an hour or two after west
coast sunset, then my rate
I enjoy low band dxing and contesting. And have an above average set up. All
that said, I get on when I want.or not. Last I checked ham radio is still a
hobby not an obligation. Re FT8: My only gripe is its location on 1840. PLENTY
of room above 1900 so it wouldn't interfere with other
Also Gentlemen,
These modes are NOT mutually exclusive.
During the Fall/Winter/Spring I spend a lot of time on 160 and 80. My station
is located in the City of San Jose on a 1/4 acre lot. Much local noise so
while my signal is pretty decent I don’t hear very well.
I tune the band looking
Hans…
I’m sorry but I agree with Bob K3UL, perhaps we should stop the whining about
lack of CW and get on the band !
If I look at my log for the 2 months since August, I have SM4DHF X13 QSOs,
SM5EDX X5, SM2EKM X2, SM2LIY X2, SM7BIC X2.
SM6CVX zero QSOs. I doesn't seem like everyone in Sweden
Gentlemen,
We have gone down this road many times. Some of us use and like FT8, others
think it is the end of Ham radio. No one is going to change their mind or
position.
I had a 35 minute CW rag chew with John G3PQA earlier this week. I've
worked more than 10 VK and ZL stations over the
There is still a great deal of CW activity on 160m !
What we need is more guys calling CQ and less just listening and saying that no
one is active!
With the usual very fast QSB on 160m, just scanning the band and listening for
RBN spots will not work very well. Especially if everyone is just
All -
The results for the Summer Stew are now final. Again, congrats to K1KI who
edged out K2AV for the top high power score. K1LT had a very impressive
Low Power score and ended up with the #1 score after factoring in the power
multiplier. VE3MGY and WB8JUI were not far behind. KN1H posted
Fun on TopBand last night from Halifax, NS.
I was able to put John SM5EDX, Al LY7M, and Stasys LY1G Into the log before
retiring for the evening. Many thanks to Guy, K2AV, for his Inverted L FCP
design that I use as my TX antenna.
Prior to getting on 160, Kevan N4XL did a Zoom presentation on
The irony is that if more of the people that complain about activity only
being on FT8 these days actually came on the band on CW, there would be more
activity !
What amazes me most is that so many of you guys in the USA have invested in
fantastic setups for 160m . . . huge towers, full-sized
Is this thread’s subject material really just whining?
Well, FT8 does some really good things that typical CW operation doesn’t
usually want to bother with.
1) use of a calling frequency (“SSB” “carrier” frequency)
2) constant monitoring
3) highly efficient use of VERY close frequencies. Never
Hans,
FT8 did not kill Ham radio; it has changed it. Computer are doing that to
many aspects of our lives, some them we like, and some we don't.
There are things that you can't do with FT8: you can't win a CW or SSB
contest (even RTTY), nor can you get a CW DXCC, etc.
You can still show your
Yes Hasns,
I was on cw around 0100Z and worked some old friends like N7DD but very low
activity.
Pity!
73 to all CW guys
Len SM7BIC
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För Hans Hjelmström
Skickat: den 9 oktober 2020 10:27
Till: Roger Kennedy
Kopia: topband@contesting.com
Ämne: Re:
SORRY Roger
FT 8 has killed Ham radio ,when you need your own skill and not trust
a computer to make your connection. I will NEVER use that mode.Unfortunately
MNI MNI Sweden Hams have almost gone QRT for good,because of this FT-8 and
lack of activity on hearing modes.
Kind regards
Hans
It's such a shame that 160m Conditions for DX have been pretty good over the
past week or two . . .
Yet there are so few CW stations coming on the band !
I hear lots of us Europeans putting out endless CQ DX calls . . . but often
getting no replies, despite good RBN Reports confirming the
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