Re: Topband: cheap radial wire?

2021-11-09 Thread n0tt1
That's right...it's insulated and is used for "invisible" dog fencing. I've used it and it's just fine for radials. It's tinned copper, at least mine was and it came in 500ft spools. I've also used the military "surplus" WD1-A wire. It has steel strands and tinned copper strands in a

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 227, Issue 8

2021-11-09 Thread Fraser Robertson
I bought a conyne delta kite for lifting antennas once. It had 400' of cord on it and would sit there high in the sky not moving. Sadly I never had the opportunity to hang an antenna from it. You need a lot of space, with no trees. 73, Fraser G4BJM Get Outlook for

Topband: Balloon Supported Vertical

2021-11-09 Thread Dick Bingham
Greetings to All ! Thank you to everyone who has responded to my original note. Looks like I will have to do my own search for the balloons as no one included a source for them BUT did include lots of great user info. Again, thanks. As in my past, I will be generating the H2 gas where

Re: Topband: Balloon Supported Vertical

2021-11-09 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
We tried a balloon vertical at V47 in the 80's.  We used an advertising balloon.  It kinda worked but it kept getting pin holes in it.  We believe it was from the sand in the air.  Our location was just off the end of the runway in St. Kitts. We got a visit from some official looking

Re: Topband: cheap radial wire?

2021-11-09 Thread James Wolf
I would add to the conversation that you must know what type of insulation is on the wire. I picked up about 5000 ft. of 20 ga. wire at a hamfest and I used it to put down about 70 radials on my shunt fed tower. I also used it for a dog fence. About four years later, the dog fence wire

Re: Topband: cheap radial wire?

2021-11-09 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I believe this wire is insulated.  It is for things like an invisible fence.  I am not sure what it is made of. W0MU On 11/9/2021 9:21 AM, Rob Atkinson wrote: Dog electronic fence wire via ebay. Bad idea, except maybe for field day or some other temporary setup due to rust. Also, long thin

Re: Topband: cheap radial wire?

2021-11-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
> Dog electronic fence wire via ebay. Bad idea, except maybe for field day or some other temporary setup due to rust. Also, long thin runs of steel may not return RF well. For permanence it's a lot better to invest in 3000 feet copper that can provide sixty 50 foot radials. That will at least

Re: Topband: Balloon Supported Vertical

2021-11-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
I'd look into some kind of drone for this. Rob K5UJ _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Balloon Supported Vertical

2021-11-09 Thread Grant Saviers
Having watched/been watched by the TARS aerostat radar off the coast of FL, I would think that the "balloon" shape that generates lift with wind would be the better choice for 160m verticals. Helikite also balloon plus kite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allsopp_Helikite Never tried one, but

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 227, Issue 8

2021-11-09 Thread Jim Kinney
What about using a kite?  Dad used to have a WW2 Air Force box kite used for emergency communication by downed pilots.  We didn't have the antenna wire so it usually broke whatever string we tried to fly it with, but it would easily have lifted a 160m vertical. Jim WE4S ⁣Get BlueMail for

Re: Topband: cheap radial wire?

2021-11-09 Thread Greg Davis
I got too many replies to reply to each of you individually, but thanks to all of you for many helpful suggestions and recommendations. I appreciate it and hope to have a much louder signal on 160m before too long. 73 de Greg N3ZL On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:20 PM Greg Davis wrote: > Hello

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 227, Issue 8

2021-11-09 Thread Fraser Robertson
I did this some decades back using met balloons, they were about 4-5' diameter, supporting a 1/2 wave or 5/8 antenna. The wire must have a DC path to ground to discharge static. I bought the balloons from a carnival novelty shop! They work great of course, but no use if it's windy. There was