Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

2022-12-23 Thread n0tt1
I was one of the 160m ops at "nearby" FT5XO. I can tell you that when the WX was good the TX antennas worked very well for receiving. When the WX turned bad, such as during the snow storm we worked through, the 160m TX antennas were very noisyjust as noisy as those anywhere on the planet.

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

2022-12-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/23/2022 8:12 PM, n...@comcast.net wrote: I missed the second question. I understand Wes's point quite well. I have friends who operate 6M from very remote places where there is no local noise to light up rare grids. They're rare because no one lives there to create noise. The vast

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

2022-12-23 Thread n4is
Wes I missed the second question. How a receiving antenna can help on your signal there. The RX antenna is good as the directivity or RDF. Based on my measurements and extensive experiments with the Waller Flag, for 1 db improve in RDF you can get 2db or more on signal to noise ratio aiming

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

2022-12-23 Thread Wes
All interesting.  But let me ask (and standby for flames) what is wrong with them simply listening on the TX antenna? I know, I know, conventional wisdom says that you can't possibly work 160 DX without a separate RX antenna.  I'll confess that I am a little pistol and will never be on the TB

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

2022-12-23 Thread n4is
Doug NX4D asked me to add his comments, Hey JC and Topbanders, This is meant as a suggestion, not a criticism. The reason I sounded an alarm to JC was the concern that the proposed SALAD/ LZ1AQ 160m receive loops by the upcoming Bouvet DXpedition/ 3Y0J are much too small for receiving weak

Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

2022-12-23 Thread JC
Hi topband lovers Some friends contact me with deep concerns about the next Bouvet DX expedition receiver antenna called SALAD Salad antenna I understand the concerns, Bouvet on 160m is a lifetime