).
A big 'thank you' goes to Guy K2AV and Jack W0UCE for developing the FCP
system and for their advice in helping me get the antenna system going. I
owe you blokes a beer!
Vy 73
Steve, VK6VZ
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The NSI Communications / PayPal link worked to forward my donation.
73,
Jack W0UCE
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Electric Fence Post Insulators do work but... Check every so often, as trees
grow the plastic insulators pop off the nails. This has happened to me
three times in the past three years. Not every one of them but this year
four popped. Two of them were on adjacent trees and allowed my double FCP
While I was selling, designing and installing Military, Embassy and Coastal
Radio Station upgrades and new installations all over Asia and their
counterparts around the world I was amazed how many BW Folded Dipoles were
specified in tenders, solicitations and requirement documents. I sold
My former QTH boasted 2 K2AV Z-Slope TX/RX Top Band Antennas which are to
this day KILLERS plus a 5 Element Vertical Fan over 96 1/4 wave on ground
radials, three K2AV BOG RX antennas a 4 SQ receiving antenna system and a
K2AV design 80m end fed half wave. To me, I can honestly say my QTH was Low
Bingo... Guy put one over the fence and outta the park with that one...
Hi, Jim
Well, an inductor and a choke are TWO devices instead of one.
We've all heard of KISS.
As it stands now with what we recommend, the fellow has an antenna
wire up in the trees connected to the transformer, an FCP
, 2012 5:24 PM
To: W0UCE
Cc: 'Wes Attaway (N5WA)'; 'Guy Olinger K2AV'; 'Tom W8JI';
topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: FCP model
W0UCE wrote:
What a wonderful test it would be for Tom and Guy to do this analysis. I
would love to know the results.
A simpler and more relevant test would
As usual, Guy is once again on target.
How do I know? I, was a secret member of the team, that went to the house
that Danny Boy owns to put up 80 and 160m FCPs that Guy designed for an
Inverted U that Danny Boy's XYL can't see.
I also hid my 43 foot Rohn 25 tower from view amongst some pine
ourselves, and
not claiming miracles. We're trying to take care of folks in small
lot and HOA circumstances.
Some knife switches in certain places would allow you to compare the
FCP in situ with two long radials. But these buggers are being done
where you can't put out two radials. W0UCE would have
One aspect of the K2AV FCP is KISS. However, experimenting with change of
components and proven architecture should anyone opt to do so will produce
unfavorable results.
So... KISS and construct an FCP in the way it has been proven unless
experimentation is the objective in which case the
it is.
Regards,
Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
On 7/31/2012 7:13 PM, W0UCE wrote:
One aspect of the K2AV FCP is KISS. However, experimenting with change of
components and proven architecture should anyone opt to do so will produce
unfavorable results.
So... KISS and construct an FCP in the way it has been
Jim:
Good points regarding my statement about proven architecture - I should
have more properly stated as proven thus far by those in the field.
73,
Jack
On 7/31/2012 4:13 PM, W0UCE wrote:
One aspect of the K2AV FCP is KISS. However, experimenting with change of
components and proven
Hi-Z is IN BUSINESS it is so simple to understand - why beat any reason or
announcements to death?
Let sleeping dogs rest.
-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:54 PM
Great job Tom - Well Done. Guy, K2AV is the man to thank.
73,
Jack
-Original Message-
From: DL2OBO ( Carsten-Thomas Dauer) [mailto:dl2...@dl2obo.de]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:42 PM
To: 'W0UCE'; 'topband reflector'
Subject: AW: Topband: 160m Folded Counterpoise White Paper
Hi all
I notice people using 72 on the reflector which I assume to be a
substitution for 73.
By chance does 72 indicate not so best wishes?
In observance of proper etiquette on Gentleman's Band and also be
Properly Politically Correct in today's troubled times perhaps
the numbers and meanings listed
To All:
If I offended anyone with what was simply having fun, as a muse about
72, 73 and 74 I apologize.
My post was not in any way intended to be negative toward anyone that cares
to operate QRP or any other power level or if they have the desire or feel
the need to let everyone know
Guy and I experimented at my former QTH and I ended up with two sets of two
element 260' BOG arrays one centered on 45, the other on 285 Degrees and a
75' Square LOG (Loop on Ground) Favoring N/S - All three antennas worked
well, always doing better in A/B tests versus my K9AY Loop
and often
Pres:
You better hope a migrating Mexican Chiwawa doesn't wander across the border
and into your BOG Field. When the wind is right the aroma from bag of Chili
is an open invitation. Mm muy bueno amigo Dinner Time
-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com
Herb:
I spotted the answer to the question right away... 65 Watts QRP - Since
QRP is typically 5 Watts or less, the extra 60 watts to this fabulous device
that defies the laws of physics must truly be amazing.
Hmmm I wonder if they available in a 4 Square version?
73,
Jack
A white paper FCP Fact or Fiction .pdf is now available for download on the
K2AV Antenna Page:
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
73,
Jack
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New FCP Isolation Transformer details, drawings and test procedure have been
added to the K2AV Antenna Page on my website:
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
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Bill:
Why struggle with or even bother putting down radials when you can use a
Folded Counterpoise?
Click on the link below for details:
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
I will be putting up a stick
as tall as I can, with some sort of loading/matching, AND, as many
, February 11, 2012 1:02 PM
To: he...@vitelcom.net; W0UCE
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Amazing Video of an extremely large circular array
Ag, Herb you have stumbled on to the idea we have joked
about here for some time. A pair of 8 element RX arrays for
diversity
Folded Counterpoise (FCP) and Isolation Transformer materials source list
and website links have been added to the K2AV Antenna page on my website.
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
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My K2AV Low Band Antenna Page has been updated with the following
information:
1. 160m FCP performance data
2. 80m FCP and Isolation Transformer information
3. Dual FCP (80 160) FCPs and Isolation Transformers
4. EZNEC File for 2 Wire BOG RX Antennas
Visit:
My Hi-Z Three Element Array North Antenna is not more than 40 feet from
where my Inverted L Horizontal runs - the INVL Vertical is maybe 60 feet
away. I have run 1500w an not a problem at all.
I had a DXE 4 Square at my for QTH and it had to be 700 feet away from my
closest TX Antenna - The
A new computer controlled RX or TX Antenna switch will be on the market in
about a month. It will control up to 10 antennas or any other contact
closure selection device with the click of a mouse. Users will be able to
assign GUI designators to each port. Example for beverage selection the
user
Bob:
Welcome to the world of Bah Humbug
Jack W0UCE
You guys aren't instilling confidence in my 160 L antenna I am working on.
:-)
Just my luck, retire and finally get to have some time to play with antennas
more, putting up a 160L
and the band goes blah ! hihi
Merry Christmas to all
Photos of K8OZ FCP Isolation Transformer have just been posted:
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
Thanks Jim - nice job.
73,
Jack
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Bill:
Your question can best be answered by Guy, K2AV as he has done all the
design and testing work. I am just his antenna tryer outer, FCP putter
upper, low band antenna work gopher, field trialer and all round amazed
individual by his knowledge and innovation with 160 and 80m antennas.
73,
Additional FCP Mounting Options and Isolation Xfmr information has been
posted on my website.
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
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Here is a direct link to the Balun Designs FCP Transformer Page. A photo
and details will be on my website K2AV antenna page shortly.
73,
Jack
For those building an isolation transformer for a 160M 5/16 FCP -- PLEASE
READ! IMPORTANT!
Martin has the right instincts, says it feels fishy for
K2AV Antenna Page with details: http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
Balun Designs FCP Xfmr Details:
http://www.balundesigns.com/servlet/the-108/1-cln-1-High-Isolation-balun/Det
ail
73,
Jack W0UCE
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http://www.balundesigns.com/servlet/the-108/1-cln-1-High-Isolation-balun/Det
ail
The link in my previous e-mail was broken - this one works - Sorry Gang.
See you in SP this weekend.
73,
Jack
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Direct link to Balun Designs FCP Isolation Transformer:
http://www.balundesigns.com/servlet/the-108/1-cln-1-High-Isolation-Balun/Det
ail
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Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
like to learn something - Why?
So here is the question: Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
a CQ, their call or a contest
running 100w to a
super-fold antenna are not tempted to send /HOA
/QRP = Terrible, Terrible practice.
QRPers, I'm begging you, please tell your QRP friends
73, Guy
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Bill Cromwell wrcromw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:58 -0500, W0UCE
Spreaders work well - use caps on both ends
and put a small weep hole in the bottom cap
* It is best to install the FCP in a straight line the overall length
is 66' if bends are necessary make them near the ends of the elements
73,
Jack W0UCE
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make them near the ends of the elements
73,
Jack W0UCE
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9:42 PM
To: W0UCE
Cc: topband@contesting.com; cw...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Topband: K2AV 160m Folded Counterpoise Antenna - New Details
Posted
W0UCE wrote:
* The ONLY means of achieving the required degree of Isolation is to
use the Isolation Transformer as specified by K2AV
Mike:
Don't waste your money, time and effort trying ferrite beads, baluns, line
isolators or anything EXCEPT the Isolation Transformer...
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com wrote:
* The ONLY means of achieving the required degree of Isolation is to
use the Isolation
We built and tested a window line FCP - when it was dry and wet... it was a
dismal failure.
Been there, done that and I have three lengths of window line cut and
connected together in a 33, 66, 66 section globs in my storage shed. It is
available immediately to the highest bidder, shipping
mu powdered iron choice.
73, Guy.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com wrote:
* The ONLY means of achieving the required degree of Isolation
is
to
use the Isolation Transformer
PM, W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com wrote:
New information, details and drawings for the K2AV 160m Folded
Counterpoise
(FCP) System, Isolation Transformer and Installation Notes have been
posted
on my website.
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
If you are interested in building an FCP versus
designed.
73,
Jack
Guy--(and others who may contribute)
I have been following your posts, and have some questions, brought on by a
view at the W0UCE diagrams, at:
http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
The top figure seems to match what I understood from your post, but the
figure that includes
Ya... Camouflage works...
Hi, Carl,
I repeat, a folded counterpoise is NO substitute for a dense and uniform
system, which is what you had in the end.
My question for you is if you had a 70 x 10 foot strip of that rocky stuff
to construct a counterpoise, and that was all the space you had,
Top Banders:
Further to Guy's report, N3ND's Inverted U Antenna is the third operational
Top Band Antenna employing K2AV's Folded Counterpoise(FCP)versus raised or
buried radials. The other two are Inverted Ls with FCPs at K2AV and W0UCE.
After downsizing to a small QTH with limited space
I greatly enjoy using my HI-Z Three element array and just added computer
controlled direction switching and a desktop direction display. I can now
change directions with the click of the mouse and also do the same by
touching a direction button on the touch screen.
73,
Jack W0UCE
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