Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-07 Thread Terry Conboy
On 2012-11-03 8:25 PM, WO0W wrote: Perhaps you can take a portable transmitter and manual tuner to the site. At the point where you wish to place an L network, attach the manual tuner and transmitter and adjust the tuner for a good match. Take the tuner away from the source of interference,

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread Tom W8JI
Thinking again about this, we have missed out a stage. After measuring the tuner output impedance, we need to make a temporary L network which, when terminated with 50 ohms, looks like the antenna. Now put the MFJ on this terminated network and measure it's R +/- jX values which will

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread James Rodenkirch
So, I'm looking at setting a EWE antenna up - what happens if I simply make it a full loop? In other words, instead of driving 4' ground rods in at both ends I run a wire between the bottom of the terminating resistor and the matching balun.I'm going to try the shorter version first - 10

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread James Rodenkirch
; topband@contesting.com Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:19:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station So, I'm looking at setting a EWE antenna up - what happens if I simply make it a full loop? In other words, instead of driving 4' ground rods in at both

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread James Rodenkirch
but don't know if that gains me anything. Thoughts?? Jim R. K9JWV From: tsho...@wmata.com To: rodenkirch_...@msn.com Subject: RE: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:02:58 + Sounds to me, like something very close to a flag or rectangular

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread Shoppa, Tim
[topband-boun...@contesting.com] on behalf of ZR [z...@jeremy.mv.com] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:11 PM To: Tom Boucher; 160 reflector; Chris G3SVL Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. MFJ sells a filter for that but I dont know how well it works around

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread Richard Fry
Tim N3QE wrote: And I think clear channel stations do not cut back power at night... do clear channel stations actually still exist? There are about 116 AM broadcast stations in the U.S. using 50 kW transmitter power during the day. Some of them reduce power at night, however KFMB (760 kHz)

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread Tom
-Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. We ended up with a good old-fashioned link coupled parallel tuned circuit with the

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread WO0W
Hi, Tom; Perhaps you can take a portable transmitter and manual tuner to the site. At the point where you wish to place an L network, attach the manual tuner and transmitter and adjust the tuner for a good match. Take the tuner away from the source of interference, put a 50 Ohm dummy load

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Bob K6UJ
Tom, I will be interested to see what the solution(s) will be for the BC station interference. Wanted to thank for the reference to the impedance problem calculators. They are great! 73, Bob K6UJ On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Tom Boucher wrote: A ham friend asked me to design a

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Lloyd Berg - N9LB
I have the same problem with a 50KW FM station a couple of miles away affecting my Palstar ZM-30. It is useable on the rig side of an antenna tuning unit, but most of my antennas are self resonate therefore the FM broadcast RF rides right into the bridge making it mostly worthless when directly

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
MFJ makes a filter for their Antenna analysers. I am sure that if it does not work for you, you can get your monies back. 73..Price W0RI I have the same problem with a 50KW FM station a couple of miles away affecting my Palstar ZM-30.  It is useable on the rig side of an antenna tuning

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
Hi Tom, I used to have the same problem with my N2PK VNA, but then I put a switchable high pass filter in before the detector - after the reflection bridge that is. Provided that the VNA calibration is done with the filter switch in the same state as you intend to do the measurement, it has

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Chris G3SVL
At 21:21 02/11/2012, Tom Boucher wrote: .. but how to use the antenna analyser in the presence of a high BC station field. Anyone any ideas? Hi Tom, I have 2.4KW of MW BC transmitter 300m from the base of my 160m antenna, so I know the problem. I've found an ICE BC filter to be pretty

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Tree
It is a common solution to put a 160 meter band pass filter on the SWR meter and it will work. I had to do this on both 160 meters and 80 meters at A73A. The high power AM station was miles away. Tree N6TR On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:22 PM, HAROLD SMITH JR w0ri...@sbcglobal.netwrote: MFJ makes

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread ZR
G3SVL ch...@g3svl.com To: Tom Boucher t...@telemetry.demon.co.uk; 160 reflector topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. At 21:21 02/11/2012, Tom Boucher wrote: .. but how to use the antenna