Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-07-02 Thread Mike Furrey
_ > From: Topband on behalf of N2TK, Tony > > Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:01 PM > To: 'Carl'; topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate > > Hi Carl, > One advantages of going underground. No more wires hanging up in the air. It > will l

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-07-02 Thread Grant Saviers
of N2TK, Tony Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:01 PM To: 'Carl'; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate Hi Carl, One advantages of going underground. No more wires hanging up in the air. It will look cleaner. But I do not have any idea if my signal will degrade going with buried radials

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-07-02 Thread N2TK, Tony
; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate The loss all depends upon your actual RF ground resistance. which ranges from a near perfect salt water marsh to granite, deep glacial sand, and rocky soils being among the worst. Loss of 2-3 dB is common at the LOWEST angles wheras others keep

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-07-02 Thread N2TK, Tony
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 7:15 PM To: N2TK, Tony ; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate With in-ground, which optimally should be be so shallow as to be on-ground, radials there's no thought or effort needed to think about them as being anything close to the intended radiation frequency

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-07-01 Thread Charles Moizeau
of identical physical length. Charles, W2SH From: Topband on behalf of N2TK, Tony Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:01 PM To: 'Carl'; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate Hi Carl, One advantages of going underground. No more wires hanging up

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-07-01 Thread N2TK, Tony
there will be a large signal loss going from elevated to ground radials? You got my attentions with that statement. N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Carl [mailto:k...@jeremy.qozzy.com] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 3:51 PM To: N2TK, Tony ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread Mike DeChristopher
Hi Tony, I had also looked at the DXE radial plate for verticals at my new qth. I settled instead on wide copper strap (a length of which you're probably already purchasing for the feedpoint connections) arranged in a square around the 4x4 and brazed the radials to that with a torch. This is

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread N2TK, Tony
Wes, Tnx for the input. 73, N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 11:19 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate Tony, I'm using a DX Engineering plate on my

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread N2TK, Tony
] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 11:33 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate Hi Tony, Your proposed configuration will work fine. Your three foot wire is actually part of your vertical. You're vertical will need to be shortened a few feet to achieve resonance

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread N2TK, Tony
Paul, Tnx for your feedback. Good info 73, N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Paul Christensen [mailto:w...@arrl.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:51 AM To: 'N2TK, Tony' ; topband@contesting.com Subject: RE: Topband: Radial plate Tony, Instead of a wire, consider using a short 1/2

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread N2TK, Tony
To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial plate I have a DX Engineering radial plate bolted to the tilt-over base of my aluminum tower. It is very nice, and I use the coax cable feature to ground my feedline. It is really overkill for your purpose. I would crimp *_and solder _*ring

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread donovanf
Hi Tony, Your proposed configuration will work fine. Your three foot wire is actually part of your vertical. You're vertical will need to be shortened a few feet to achieve resonance. While its very important to use a common mode choke with elevated radials, its completely unnecessary

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread Wes Stewart
Tony, I'm using a DX Engineering plate on my 160 inverted-L.  In my case, I also have the HD tiltover fixture mounted on a 3" diameter pipe cast in concrete.  I mount the plate a bit over 1" above the concrete surface so there is room to install the bolts around the edge of the plate from

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread Brian Pease
I have a DX Engineering radial plate bolted to the tilt-over base of my aluminum tower.  It is very nice, and I use the coax cable feature to ground my feedline. It is really overkill for your purpose.  I would crimp *_and solder _*ring terminals onto each radial, with perhaps 1/4" holes.  I

Re: Topband: Radial plate

2018-06-27 Thread Paul Christensen
Tony, Instead of a wire, consider using a short 1/2" wide copper strap from the radial plate up to the coaxial input connection on your box. I think you made the right choice in using a separate box for the feed. I recently did the same with NEMA 4x4x2 boxes mounted on a 2-inch pipe. The

Re: Topband: radial plate height

2015-09-28 Thread donovanf
Hi Jorge, one degree of phase on 160 meters is 18 inches. Any dimension less than 18 inches will have no significant affect on 160 meters. Your ground platew will work perfectly at 5 inches high 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com To:

Re: Topband: radial plate height

2015-09-28 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Thanks very much Frank! 73, Jorge -Mensaje original- De: donov...@starpower.net [mailto:donov...@starpower.net] Enviado el: lunes, 28 de septiembre de 2015 12:16 p.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM CC: 'TopBand List' Asunto: Re: Topband: radial plate height Hi Jorge, one degree of phase

Re: Topband: Radial Plate Design

2015-02-11 Thread Donald Chester
w8ji at w8ji.com Wed Feb 4 11:32:18 EST 2015 I just twist my wires in a coherent lump, flux it with liquid flux, and flood the twisted area with solder. If I get really sophisticated, I slide a piece of copper pipe over the twisted area, crimp it, and flood the whole inside with

Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs

2015-02-04 Thread mstangelo
oxidant compound like Penetrox. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Tim Shoppa tsho...@gmail.com To: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net, topBand List topband@contesting.com Sent: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:31:59 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs A different idea than lug

Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs

2015-02-04 Thread Tom W8JI
A different idea than lug connections, is to use load-center style ground bars bolted to the metal plate. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-23-Terminal-Load-Center-Ground-Bar-Kit-PK23GTACP/100129430 I fully agree this is not up to Bellcore grounding standards. But seems much more ham-amenable,

Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs - dual hole compression lugs

2015-02-04 Thread m.r.
for a radial system. Robin WA6CDR - Original Message - From: Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com To: Topband@contesting.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:57 Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs I've never seen the dual hole lugs but they certainly would stop the attachments from moving

Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs

2015-02-04 Thread Tim Shoppa
A different idea than lug connections, is to use load-center style ground bars bolted to the metal plate. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-23-Terminal-Load-Center-Ground-Bar-Kit-PK23GTACP/100129430 I fully agree this is not up to Bellcore grounding standards. But seems much more ham-amenable,

Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs - dual hole compression lugs

2015-02-04 Thread Bill Wichers
, February 04, 2015 10:57 Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Plate Designs I've never seen the dual hole lugs but they certainly would stop the attachments from moving. I like the idea. I made my own radial plate from a 18 x 18 x 3/16 SS plate with a square hole cut in the center for a butternut