Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/25/2022 11:43 AM, Charlie wrote: Sorry folks, I don't totally agree. Granted, this may be a bit of semantics. But, for the last 3 or 4 years we've used what's known as a Double L on 160 at PJ4K. The top's about 130 feet with the vertical section running down to 30 feet. The feed

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Dino Darling
@contesting.com ; j...@audiosystemsgroup.com ; Jim Brown Subject: Re: Topband: What antenna would you build? Sorry, typo. Putting up antennas at PJ4K. On March 25, 2022 2:43:04 PM AST, Charlie wrote: >Sorry folks, I don't totally agree. Granted, this may be a bit of semant

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Charlie
Sorry, typo. Putting up antennas at PJ4K. On March 25, 2022 2:43:04 PM AST, Charlie wrote: >Sorry folks, I don't totally agree. Granted, this may be a bit of semantics. >But, for the last 3 or 4 years we've used what's known as a Double L on 160 >at PJ4K. The top's about 130 feet with

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Mike Waters
I asked about the land dimensions and orientation mostly for determining what his receiving antenna options are. 73 Mike W0BTU On Fri, Mar 25, 2022, 1:43 PM Charlie wrote: > Sorry folks, I don't totally agree. Granted, this may be a bit of > semantics. But, for the last 3 or 4 years we've

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Charlie
Sorry folks, I don't totally agree. Granted, this may be a bit of semantics. But, for the last 3 or 4 years we've used what's known as a Double L on 160 at PJ4K. The top's about 130 feet with the vertical section running down to 30 feet. The feed points at about 85 feet which is a bit of

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Mike Waters
This begs the question, What is the shape and orientation of this 5 acres? 73 Mike W0BTU On Fri, Mar 25, 2022, 1:16 PM Jim Brown wrote: > YES! This is VERY important advice, trumps all else. > > And I echo those who have advised to build one vertical radiator with an > excellent radial

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Jim Brown
YES! This is VERY important advice, trumps all else. And I echo those who have advised to build one vertical radiator with an excellent radial system, and the best RX antenna system that will fit on your property. Most of the arrays others have suggested are not practical on five acres, if

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Mark - N5OT
I actually got permission from the seller to go out there, set up an antenna, and operate a 160 contest before making and offer. The place worked great.  I committed. Mark N5OT On 3/25/2022 12:19 PM, Mike Waters wrote: This is a great piece of advice!!! I would add: check those QRN levels

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Mike Waters
This is a great piece of advice!!! I would add: check those QRN levels at various times and on different days. 73 Mike W0BTU On Fri, Mar 25, 2022, 10:01 AM Fred Kleber wrote: > > ... before you even make an offer on a piece of property, go there with a > mobile receiver and check to see what

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-25 Thread Fred Kleber
Hi Dino, Regardless of what antenna you ultimately decide to build, before you even make an offer on a piece of property, go there with a mobile receiver and check to see what the ambient QRM level is. We have already read in this group about this very subject from a ham that is unable to use

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Bob Kile
Hi Dino, You did not mention cost as a factor in consideration of a vertical array.  On 5 acres a good full sized vertical and KW with a good effort in ground system would likely do the job. A strong effort in low noise RX antennas would be required because a single vertical won't cut the

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Kenny Silverman
Dino, you didn’t Mention if you were building a house on the 5 acres. If so, that would limit your choices depending on where the house is. I’m on 6 acres and at best I could get 2 elements either to the NE or east-west. If you go to my QRZ.com page my property layout is at the bottom. My

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Dino Darling
Sorry, Tim's article was August 1994. Dino - KX6D From: Topband on behalf of Dino Darling Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 10:33:28 AM To: Stan Stockton ; w...@w5zn.org Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: What antenna would you build? Thanks Tree

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Dino Darling
, March 24, 2022 9:55:41 AM To: w...@w5zn.org Cc: Dino Darling ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: What antenna would you build? Different people have differing views on the definition of a serious antenna. An 8 circle with 8 directions of BSEF verticals would definitely be serious

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Jeff Blaine
The casual antenna nut considering a parasitic vertical array will need to pay very close attention to the comment on having a VERY SERIOUS ground radial system on all elements. 73/jeff/ac0c alpha-charlie-zero-charlie www.ac0c.com On 3/24/22 11:55 AM, Stan Stockton wrote: Different people

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Stan Stockton
Different people have differing views on the definition of a serious antenna. An 8 circle with 8 directions of BSEF verticals would definitely be serious. If you wanted one tower and didn’t want to do the work to install a minimum of 100 radials or more I would consider one tall tower with

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread w5zn
Hi Dino, I started with a single 1/4 wave vertical as Tree notes and it worked extremely well for years, however after a period of time I had a desire to upgrade the single vertical to a system that offered some gain on TX. I came across the array that Tim, K3LR, mentioned in "Low Band

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Tree
//www.aa1k.us/ Cell: > 302-632-2353email: j...@verizon.net or a...@arrl.net > > -Original Message- > From: Tim Duffy > To: 'Dino Darling' ; 'Topband@contesting.com' < > topband@contesting.com> > Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2022 1:13 am > Subject: Re: Topband: What anten

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Mike VE9AA ve...@nbnet.nb.ca
I like 4-squares Dino. I have them on 15, 20, 40, 80 and a small 2-el on 160... I'm still looking for an ACB-10 (10 meters) (or equivalent) to complete the whole set. If it were me, I'd build whatever it is VY2ZM is using. (vy2zm.com) or 2nd choice, K3LR GL Mike VE9AA If you may and you

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-24 Thread Jon Zaimes, AA1K via Topband
' Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2022 1:13 am Subject: Re: Topband: What antenna would you build? Hello Dino, Take a look in the last three editions of the ON4UN Low Band book - in the Yagi chapter. I have described in detail the 3 element vertical Yagi for 160 meters that I am using. Gives over 5 dB of gain

Re: Topband: What antenna would you build?

2022-03-23 Thread Tim Duffy
Hello Dino, Take a look in the last three editions of the ON4UN Low Band book - in the Yagi chapter. I have described in detail the 3 element vertical Yagi for 160 meters that I am using. Gives over 5 dB of gain (over a single 1/4 wavelength vertical) and the front to back is over 30 dB at the