Topband: 'Hairpin' matching

2013-09-20 Thread Tom Boucher
The excellent web site for calculating matching network values should have been: http://home.sandiego.edu/~ekim/e194rfs01/jwmatcher/matcher2.html not the one I posted yesterday. 73, Tom G3OLB _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching

2013-09-20 Thread Charlie Cunningham
: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching The excellent web site for calculating matching network values should have been: http://home.sandiego.edu/~ekim/e194rfs01/jwmatcher/matcher2.html not the one I posted yesterday. 73, Tom G3OLB _ Topband Reflector _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching

2013-09-20 Thread John Chappell G3XRJ
Just measured the 'hairpin' coil for my 160m 38 foot top loaded - coil and 2 x 18 foot wires - antenna. Feedpoint impedance without match is 12 ohms. Placing shunt coil to ground of 1.7microH and tx sees 50 ohm 1:1. Only problem with the vertical being so short the bandwidth is only 12 khz

Re: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching

2013-09-20 Thread Charlie Cunningham
!) 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom Boucher Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:25 AM To: 160 reflector Subject: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching The excellent web site for calculating matching network values should

Re: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching

2013-09-20 Thread Shoppa, Tim
the theory said it would be. I was very impressed. Tim N3QE -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Cunningham Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:16 AM To: 'Tom Boucher'; '160 reflector' Subject: Re: Topband: 'Hairpin' matching Very

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions - Shunt?

2013-09-19 Thread Jim GM
Thankyou Charlie. I got those Q numbers from http://www.m0ukd.com/Calculators/air_core_inductor_calculator/ Maybe a decimal point was left out. Thanks Tom -- Jim K9TF _ Topband Reflector

Topband: 'Hairpin' matching

2013-09-19 Thread Tom Boucher
Just to add a comment on this thread: I do not use an inductor to match my inverted 'L', just a capacitor from coax centre/bottom of wire to the radial point. Further I do not use big wide space 'toast-rack' Cs, but tiny ceramic ones rated at 6.3KV which will handle very decent amounts of

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-18 Thread Jim GM
The thing works, I mean the shunt match works. what would be a good Q for just the coil? 300, 600, 900 Operating Q, what is the desired value? Whats your formula for that? Q of the operating antenna, cannot be expressed as band width equation I see so many others use. there is another quick

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-18 Thread Charlie Cunningham
than I have time for at the moment. 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim GM Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:05 PM To: Tom W8JI Cc: topband Subject: Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions The thing works, I

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-18 Thread Charlie Cunningham
: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:44 PM To: 'Jim GM'; 'Tom W8JI' Cc: 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions Hello, Jim You seem to be lost! First of all, the thing that you originally called a hairpin match is NOT a shunt match. The coil, or hairpin is in SERIES

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions - BTW

2013-09-18 Thread Charlie Cunningham
: topband Subject: Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions The thing works, I mean the shunt match works. what would be a good Q for just the coil? 300, 600, 900 Operating Q, what is the desired value? Whats your formula for that? Q of the operating antenna, cannot be expressed as band width

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-17 Thread Charlie Cunningham
tunes rather nicely! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Waters Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:51 PM To: W2RU - Bud Hippisley; topband Subject: Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions Ok, I found the photos

Re: Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-14 Thread shristov
A hairpin or a parallel matching inductor should be adjusted this way: 1. select inductance (hairpin length); 2. adjust wire length for the desired resonant frequency. Repeat 1 and 2 until you get SWR = 1 at the desired resonant frequency. Do not attempt to adjust resonance via hairpin

Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-14 Thread bills stuff
To amplify a little on some other comments - For an Inv L, and a decent radial system, with a coil shorted across (shunt) the vertical wire input to the braid/radials, the otherwise low impedance can be transformed to 50 ohms. One way to do it is to use an antenna analyzer to measure the

Topband: Hairpin Matching Coil Questions

2013-09-13 Thread Jim GM
I have an inverted L and using a hairpin coil to match in on 160M. One coil is 6 inches OD the other is 2 inches OD. I have been thinking about making another hairpin with wire wrapped around a toroid donut, I have noticed with the 6 inch coil I have a higher noise level on 160M and hear BCI