Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-14 Thread Donald Chester
From: w...@w8ji.com The worse case SWR of a 50 ohm system with 75 ohm cable isn't 1.5:1 when normalized to 50 ohms. It is 2.25:1. 1.5*1.5 = 2.25 A 50 ohm load with 1/4 wave of 75 ohm is 112.5 ohms, and that is 2.25:1. This is why the cable needs to be 1/2 wave long, so impedance is back

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Donald Chester
I think you're being overly picky. The 75-ohm cable would be at worst a 1.5:1 mismatch. Probably a fraction of a dB loss at most, particularly with foam type hard line. If you have a source of good, low-loss 75-ohm coax that will safely handle the power you intend to run, and which will hold up

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/13/2014 12:17 PM, Donald Chester wrote: I think you're being overly picky. The 75-ohm cable would be at worst a 1.5:1 mismatch. Probably a fraction of a dB loss at most, particularly with foam type hard line. If you have a source of good, low-loss 75-ohm coax that will safely handle the

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread mstangelo
- From: Donald Chester k4...@hotmail.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:17:59 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable I think you're being overly picky. The 75-ohm cable would be at worst a 1.5:1 mismatch. Probably a fraction of a dB loss at most

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread mstangelo
) Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable You can easily make the 75 ohm coax essentially invisible in a monoband application by using some RG-11 to extend the total length of the 75 ohm feedline to any multiple of 1/2 wavelength. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Carl
N2MS - Original Message - From: Donald Chester k4...@hotmail.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:17:59 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable I think you're being overly picky. The 75-ohm cable would be at worst a 1.5:1 mismatch. Probably

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Carl
, June 13, 2014 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable You can easily make the 75 ohm coax essentially invisible in a monoband application by using some RG-11 to extend the total length of the 75 ohm feedline to any multiple of 1/2 wavelength. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread mstangelo
: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:36:49 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable Ive been using that CATV RG-11 since the late 70's as jumpers to the hardline from wire antennas, in the house, and as phasing lines for 160 and 80M verticals. Never a hint of heat at 1200W but someone

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread James Wolf
This does however, slightly narrow the bandwidth of the antenna if the coax loss is small because as you move away from the perfect 1/2 wave point the coax will start to show SWR. For monobanders this usually isn't a problem, but it may be for some tribanders. This will also work on all the

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Tom W8JI
You bring up some good points. I got a couple of hundred feet of Flooded Commscope 75 ohm RG-11 type at a good proce. I don't have the part number handy. I've been very happy with it at 100 watts. I'm thinking of running 500 watts. The center conductor is copper clad steel. I'm concerned about

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/13/2014 9:51 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: The worse case SWR of a 50 ohm system with 75 ohm cable isn't 1.5:1 when normalized to 50 ohms. It is 2.25:1. 1.5*1.5 = 2.25 Wrong. If you're using 75 ohm line, it's a 75 ohm system -- the system impedance is the line impedance. It's the the match of the

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-05 Thread bruce whitney via Topband
burial coax cable Mike, I like LMR400-DB.  Not only is it direct burial but it is the lowest loss of the RG8 type cables. 73, Tom WA2BCK -Original Message- From: mstang...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:10 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 50 ohm direct

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-05 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 6/5/2014 5:43 AM, bruce whitney via Topband wrote: Again, You might want to compare this cable to the LMR400-DB. It has performed well for me. http://www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php Bruce W8RA Bury Flex is good cable, however, in comparison to LMR400, its velocity factor is 10 to 15% lower.

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-05 Thread N5PA
whitney; Tom WA2BCK; mstang...@comcast.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable On 6/5/2014 5:43 AM, bruce whitney via Topband wrote: Again, You might want to compare this cable to the LMR400-DB. It has performed well for me. http://www.davisrf.com

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-04 Thread Tom WA2BCK
Mike, I like LMR400-DB. Not only is it direct burial but it is the lowest loss of the RG8 type cables. 73, Tom WA2BCK -Original Message- From: mstang...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:10 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread mstangelo
Does anyone know of a source for 50 ohm RG-8 type direct burial coax able. I can find many sources for CATV and Satellite 75 ohn cable but not 50 ohm. Direct burial cable is coated with and anti-fungal compound. I''ve had success with 75 ohm cables for receiving and want to purchase 50 ohm

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread Jorge Diez CX6VM
Buryflex is a good one. 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W Enviado desde mi iPhone El 03/06/2014, a las 11:10, mstang...@comcast.net escribió: Does anyone know of a source for 50 ohm RG-8 type direct burial coax able. I can find many sources for CATV and Satellite 75 ohn cable but not 50 ohm.

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread Jim N7US
http://www.davisrf.com/buryflex.php 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Does anyone know of a source for 50 ohm RG-8 type direct burial coax cable? I can find many sources for CATV and Satellite 75 ohn cable but not 50 ohm. Direct burial cable is coated with and anti-fungal compound.

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread Bill Wichers
lucky we'll see someone start making coax that way! -Bill -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of mstang...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:10 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread mstangelo
Bill, Thanks. I will check it out. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net To: mstang...@comcast.net, topband@contesting.com Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 14:58:51 - (UTC) Subject: RE: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable Usually direct burial cable is just a PE

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread mstangelo
Bill, Thanks. I will check it out. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net To: mstang...@comcast.net, topband@contesting.com Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 14:58:51 - (UTC) Subject: RE: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable Usually direct burial cable is just a PE

Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable

2014-06-03 Thread bruce whitney via Topband
: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Topband: 50 ohm direct burial coax cable Bill, Thanks. I will check it out. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net To: mstang...@comcast.net, topband@contesting.com Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 14:58:51 - (UTC) Subject