Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-26 Thread Richard Fry
Mike W0BTU wrote: ... how about 1/2 wave monopoles, or monopoles between 90 and 180 degrees? Could they be useful at any distance on 160? All monopoles of all electrical heights of 5/8WL and less _radiate_ (launch) maximum relative field (E/Emax) in the horizontal plane -- regardless of

Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Bruce
Ionosphere reflection layers are a ever changing part of the DX signal. Yes, every antenna has its day, but the what angle is consistently better ?. My experience has been the angle gets higher above ground as the frequency is lowered. Also this angle is not the same between the equator and

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net wrote: AM broadcast band antennas 5/8 1/2 wave tall are rarely used any more. I noticed a reduction of the tall AM towers starting about the 1960's. 73 Bruce-K1FZ Wouldn't that have corresponded to the FCC's reduction in

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
On 10/25/2012 1:46 PM, Bruce wrote: AM broadcast band antennas 5/8 1/2 wave tall are rarely used any more. I noticed a reduction of the tall AM towers starting about the 1960's. 73 Bruce-K1FZ Bruce, I would add one exception to that and that would be the use by some broadcasters

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Paul Christensen
AM broadcast band antennas 5/8 1/2 wave tall are rarely used any more. I noticed a reduction of the tall AM towers starting about the 1960's. An optimized half-wave design (180-195 electrical degrees) is still the height of choice for AM broadcasters. There are many factors, including

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Lloyd Berg N9LB
I was involved in broadcast engineering for many years ( probably one of the reasons for my interest in 160m and AM ). There were numerous technical write ups about stations who wanted the maximum theoretical ground wave signal and spent big bucks to put up 5/8 wave verticals. They were

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Tom W8JI
There were numerous technical write ups about stations who wanted the maximum theoretical ground wave signal and spent big bucks to put up 5/8 wave verticals. They were always disappointed in the unexpectedly reduced coverage area that resulted. Most of the reasoning for this unexpected

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Tom W8JI
- Original Message - From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net To: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ? Wouldn't that have corresponded to the FCC's reduction in clear

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Richard Fry
Bruce-K1FZ wrote: AM broadcast band antennas 5/8 1/2 wave tall are rarely used any more. I noticed a reduction of the tall AM towers starting about the 1960's. Guy Olinger replied: Wouldn't that have corresponded to the FCC's reduction in clear-channel strategies, and more local market

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Richard Fry
Lloyd Berg N9LB wrote: There were numerous technical write ups about stations who wanted the maximum theoretical ground wave signal and spent big bucks to put up 5/8 wave verticals. They were always disappointed in the unexpectedly reduced coverage area that resulted. Most of the reasoning

Re: Topband: Best angle of radiation ?

2012-10-25 Thread Paul Christensen
Most of the reasoning for this unexpected negative result was attributed to the minor high-angle lobe produced by the 5/8 wave coming back down and interfering with the main lower angle signal. As a result, those station who had experimented with 5/8 wave towers usually reduced them to 1/2