Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-02 Thread ZR
: Beverages 2 basic questions Please let us know how that works, Carl. I'd love to experiment with a Slinky. If brass Slinkys aren't available anymore, then we could wind one from some #14 or #12 solid copper wire using a long piece of plastic pipe as a form. Close-wind it first, then stretch

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-02 Thread ZR
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions It does? http://www.w8ji.com/slinky_and_loaded_beverages.htm Maybe Tom and Carl are both in on this conspiracy. ;-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Bob Eldridge eldri...@direct.ca

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-02 Thread ZR
- Original Message - From: Eduardo Araujo er_ara...@yahoo.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions Many thanks Dean, Carl, Mike, Joel and the rest of you who shared your opinions about why so many, probably

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-02 Thread Tom W8JI
resistors. Id guesstimate the general F/B to be over 20dB on 160. My feeling is that performance could not be duplicated by various other loading methods. If somebody wants to make real world comparisons it might be beneficial. I looked at slinkys when I lived in Conyers. None of this is

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-02 Thread ZR
- Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions resistors. Id guesstimate the general F/B to be over 20dB on 160. My feeling is that performance could

Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions----Tnks from LU2DKT

2012-12-02 Thread Eduardo Araujo
Martin, Carl and Bruce, many thanks for the graphics and suggestions. I think I can install one temporally to compare the results of a 900 feet against 600 feet. Many thanks to all for sharing opinion and experiencies. Eddy, LU2DKT ___ Topband

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Joel Harrison
Eduardo - your arrangement should work well, especially if you place the main lobe into areas of interest and the nulls are into regions of no activity (or noise sources). It is a good general setup. Everyone may have their own specific reason for utilizing multiple Beverages, but mine is very

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread ZR
: topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions Eduardo - your arrangement should work well, especially if you place the main lobe into areas of interest and the nulls are into regions of no activity (or noise sources). It is a good

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Mike Waters
The hams with Beverages that cover more than four directions likely have Beverages with a 3 dB beamwidth narrower than 90 degrees, such as: 1. A single Bev 1.5 or 2 wavelengths long 2. Two of them pointing the same direction and phased together. See

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Bob Eldridge
Next year Im planning to try a couple of Slinky Beverages again in order to get a 2-3 wave electrical equivalent for particular paths and narrow the beamwidth to get rid of EU noise. Carl KM1H Come on Carl! You're just being provocative. Someone may take that seriously. You know very well

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Mike Waters
Please let us know how that works, Carl. I'd love to experiment with a Slinky. If brass Slinkys aren't available anymore, then we could wind one from some #14 or #12 solid copper wire using a long piece of plastic pipe as a form. Close-wind it first, then stretch it to the desired (?) pitch. 73,

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Mike Waters
It does? http://www.w8ji.com/slinky_and_loaded_beverages.htm Maybe Tom and Carl are both in on this conspiracy. ;-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Bob Eldridge eldri...@direct.ca wrote: You know very well that only the physical length matters for narrowing the lobe.

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Bob Eldridge
. I've been at it a long time, and I am still learning. And apologies to you, Carl. 73, Bob VE7BS - Original Message - From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

Re: Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Tom W8JI
Come on Carl! You're just being provocative. Someone may take that seriously. You know very well that only the physical length matters for narrowing the lobe. Bob VE7BS Hi Bob, You have the right idea from the standpoint that 1500 feet of wire in a 100-foot linear spatial distance is

Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-12-01 Thread Eduardo Araujo
Many thanks Dean, Carl, Mike, Joel and the rest of you who shared your opinions about why so many, probably I missed the point that 3 or 4 db in directivity loss because of deeps is much more important that I figured out and that could make a difference in a QSO or not. Keep in mind that

Topband: Beverages 2 basic questions

2012-11-30 Thread Eduardo Araujo
Dear Topbanders, I am planning my next move with the beverages and I would like to hear your opinions about 2 areas. Looking at the pattern response for beverages in for example ON4UN book, I found that If I install 4 x 600 feet or 5 x 900 feet beverages, I should cover 360 degress with deeps