Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-24 Thread Sudipta Ghose
Hi all! Very nice and useful discussion! Great! Can anybody tell experience about the Antec SMPSs. Thank you all and kind regards, 73 SG/VU3TKG On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: Sorry I identified Corcom incorrectly. I checked a sample and the actual filters that I

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-23 Thread ZR
On 7/21/2013 8:49 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: I can't understand why throwing some ferrite beads at a problem, or changing the supply, are the only two solutions. Many times, if not most times, a few .01 uF line voltage rated bypass capacitors are significantly better than a sting of cores, or a

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-23 Thread Tom W8JI
I simply purchased 10 Corcom filters on ebay ( I think they were $2 each + shipping). I cut a power supply cord (universal plug type) about 6 inches from the computer and wired the filter into a plastic electrical box with the other end of the cord out the other end of the box. I used standard

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-23 Thread Tom W2MN
] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:42 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question I simply purchased 10 Corcom filters on ebay ( I think they were $2 each + shipping). I cut a power supply cord (universal plug type) about 6

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-23 Thread Tom W8JI
Sorry I identified Corcom incorrectly. I checked a sample and the actual filters that I used were Delta Electronics 05DRCG5. http://c1170156.r56.cf3.rackcdn.com/UK_DEL_05DRDG3_DS.pdf That's better. That is a filter that suppresses CM and DM signals via capacitors, but it still looks like

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Gary K9GS
Another couple of points. About 10 years ago, at a local ham-fest, there was a guy selling brand new Lambda power supplies. They were adjustable from 10-15 V and he had models ranging from 20-50 amps. They were switching supplies. I couldn't pass these up and bought 7 or 8 of them. They

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Tom W8JI
I ended up wiring in some CorCom line filters that I had around the house and it completely removed the noise. I've used these supplies for years including being used on a number of different DX-peditionsthey are light and fairly small. This fix worked just great. I can't understand why

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/21/2013 8:49 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: I can't understand why throwing some ferrite beads at a problem, or changing the supply, are the only two solutions. Many times, if not most times, a few .01 uF line voltage rated bypass capacitors are significantly better than a sting of cores, or a

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Tom W8JI
On 7/21/2013 8:49 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: I can't understand why throwing some ferrite beads at a problem, or changing the supply, are the only two solutions. Many times, if not most times, a few .01 uF line voltage rated bypass capacitors are significantly better than a sting of cores, or a

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/21/2013 4:52 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: Bypass capacitors will cure common mode also, because common mode cannot be generated without differential mode someplace in the system between two points. But you're re-engineering someone else's design, without knowledge of all the issues.That's a

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Shoppa, Tim
, July 21, 2013 08:37 PM To: topband@contesting.com topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question On 7/21/2013 4:52 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: Bypass capacitors will cure common mode also, because common mode cannot be generated without differential mode

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread Bill Cromwell
On 07/21/2013 08:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote: But you're re-engineering someone else's design, without knowledge of all the issues.That's a questionable practice unless you're a circuit designer -- it's easy to open a can of worms. Few hams are qualified to do that, and I would be the last to

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-21 Thread DALE LONG
: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question On 07/21/2013 08:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote: But you're re-engineering someone else's design, without knowledge of all the issues.That's a questionable practice unless you're a circuit designer -- it's easy to open a can of worms. Few hams

Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-20 Thread Clay Melhorn
Hello to the group.I recently built an AMD quadcore machine I intend to eventually replace my trusty XP Pro machines. Foolishly got in a hurry to complete the build and purchased a PS from a local shop.It supplies the power required without issue, I have discovered why the price was so good.Jim

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2013 7:27 AM, Clay Melhorn wrote: Looking at another good deal how do the COOLER MASTER PS's rate for RFC filteringor are there others brand I should be looking at? For about ten years, my computers have been T4x-series Thinkpads, and they have been pretty RF-quiet. Before that, I

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-20 Thread Gary Smith
As nothing remains on the market long before it's replaced, my PS from two years ago has been superseded. Mine is a PC Power Cooling Silencer 760W. Were I to get one today I would choose their 950 watt version http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028 The reason I like

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-20 Thread Bill Cromwell
On 07/20/2013 11:55 AM, Gary Smith wrote: As nothing remains on the market long before it's replaced, my PS from two years ago has been superseded. Mine is a PC Power Cooling Silencer 760W. Were I to get one today I would choose their 950 watt version

Re: Topband: Desktop Power Supply Brand/Noise Question

2013-07-20 Thread Gary K9GS
Hi Clay, One thing you might want to check. See if you can get inside the power supply...disconnect it first. Take a look on the PCB near the power connector. There may be a space on the PCB where you can install a power line filtersomething like a CorCom or similar. Sometimes they