Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-28 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Yes Todd it was indeed a typo. the rate here now is .47 [er KW/H! Herb On 4/27/2012 9:15 PM, Tod Olson wrote: Herb: Is this a typo? Here in the VI when the power company increased the rates to over $40 per KWH ŠŠŠ. I wonder if you meant $0.40/KWH. At $40/KWH I would guess you could

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-28 Thread W2PM
Wait until the next administration of the current incumbent US President. Dont worry Herb you will be paying a lot more for energy soon enough. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net wrote: Yes Todd it was indeed a typo. the rate here now is .47

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
...Thanks Hmmm.. the heatsink base of this 40 watt bulb also gets too hot to touch and feels like more than 40 watts also. --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Wayne Millsn...@bresnan.net wrote: From: Wayne Millsn...@bresnan.net Subject: RE: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: 'Jim F.'j_fit

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread chacuff
: Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. I just don't understand physics it seemsas how can there be that much energy savings if so much heat is produced and must be dissipated

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Eddy Swynar
Hi Herb, Don't feel bad...I think I can top that. Here in the much-vaunted LAND OF NO---i.e. the province of Ontario---our powers-that-be recently brought-in universal smart power meters, followed almost immediately by ...pay per time of use variable prices for kilowatt hours, i.e. if you do

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread chacuff
but at a higher rate per KWH than if you opt in and use energy during the off peak hours. - Original Message - From: Eddy Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca To: he...@vitelcom.net Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. Hi

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Jim F.
headquarters as an inexpensive ($10)   white noise generator, but have heard nothing back yet.    73,   jim / W1FMR       --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net wrote: From: Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: topband

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Wayne Mills
be representative of any radiation. The noise that I observed was affected by my hand in the vicinity of the lamp, surely radiation. Not good. Wayne, N7NG Jackson, Wyoming From: Wayne Millsn...@bresnan.net Subject: RE: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: 'Jim F.'j_fit...@yahoo.com, 'top

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/27/2012 10:10 AM, Wayne Mills wrote: I also note that the experiment in the You Tube video is measuring noise on the mains line. What about radiated noise? Since the sample is referenced to ground, it might be representative of any radiation. The noise that I observed was affected by my

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Bill Wichers
It's probably worth noting that while the LED will run on DC *at full intensity*, many/most of the controllers dim the light using PWM so in that case there is a square wave of varying duty cycle driving the LED. Human eyeballs integrate the pulses and perceive the light level as being brighter or

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Lennart M
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] För Jim Brown Skickat: den 27 april 2012 19:35 Till: topband@contesting.com Ämne: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. On 4/27/2012 10:10 AM, Wayne Mills wrote: I also note

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-27 Thread Tod Olson
Herb: Is this a typo? Here in the VI when the power company increased the rates to over $40 per KWH ŠŠŠ. I wonder if you meant $0.40/KWH. At $40/KWH I would guess you could not afford to run your equipment for an entire contest! 73, Tod, KØTO ___

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-07 Thread Jim F.
Thank you Mike Great advice,   and another good reason to support the ARRL.   73   jim  / W1FMR   --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: topband topband@contesting.com Date

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-07 Thread N4XM Paul D. Schrader
good reason to support the ARRL.   73   jim  / W1FMR   --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: topband topband@contesting.com Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 6:00 AM Right now

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-06 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/5/2012 9:45 AM, Jim F. wrote: I will continue to use one upstairs well away from my operating table turned off while operating because I like the bulb and the price. That's a very bad move -- by buying an RF-noisy product, we cause RFI to ourselves and our neighbors, and we cause more

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-06 Thread Jim F.
, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: topband@contesting.com, Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, April 6, 2012, 1:56 PM On 4/5/2012 9:45 AM, Jim F. wrote: I will continue to use

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-06 Thread GeorgeWallner
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com wrote: ...Since this bulb complies with part 15 of FCC rules It is marked to comply, but it may not. (Part 15 compliance is self-certified. It would be interesting to test it against Part 15 requirements. I believe that one

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-06 Thread DAVID CUTHBERT
I did some research and Maxim makes ICs for offline LED lamps such as the Home Depot lamps. The switching frequency is 50 to 330 kHz and the incoporate frequency dithering to reduce EMI. The standard they adhere to appears to be EN 55015, Limits and methods of measurement of radio disturbance

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-06 Thread Garry Shapiro
so? George, AA7JV jim / W1FMR --- On Thu, 4/5/12, GeorgeWallneraa...@atlanticbb.net wrote: From: GeorgeWallneraa...@atlanticbb.net Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: TOPBANDTOPBAND@CONTESTING.COM Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 7:10 PM On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-06 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Jim, K9YC is absolutely right as usual. Another thing to do is to send interference reports from LED bulbs to the FCC with copies to the ARRL, and include the NAB (National Association of Broadcaster) who will be sure to produce some public service announcements for the many member stations

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Sam Morgan
brand name and model numbers would be helpful please GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 4/5/2012 10:21 AM, Jim F. wrote: I bought two LED 40 watt equivalent 110V. light bulbs from Home Depot that use only 9 watts of power, for $9.99 ea. They seemed like a good deal but cause noise interference

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Wayne Mills
. That 75 watt equivalent lamp seems to put out MORE than 60 watts of heat. It really gets hot. -Original Message- From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim F. Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:22 AM To: top Band Subject: Topband: Home Depot LED

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Jim F.
to 160m.   jim / W1FMR From: Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com To: topband@contesting.com topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. brand name and model numbers would be helpful please

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Jim F.
Wayne.. Good info...Thanks   Hmmm..  the heatsink base of this 40 watt bulb also gets too hot to touch and feels like more than 40 watts also.   --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Wayne Mills n...@bresnan.net wrote: From: Wayne Mills n...@bresnan.net Subject: RE: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Tod Olson
Mills n...@bresnan.net wrote: From: Wayne Mills n...@bresnan.net Subject: RE: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: 'Jim F.' j_fit...@yahoo.com, 'top Band' topband@contesting.com Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 12:32 PM FWIW: for the last six weeks, I've been experimenting with three LED

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Mike Greenway
with some new high efficiency fluorescent lighting and it blanked every AM radio in the 5 story building. 73 Mike K4PI -Original Message- From: Jim F. Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:21 AM To: top Band Subject: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. I bought two LED 40 watt

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Trent Fleming
equivalent lamp seems to put out MORE than 60 watts of heat. It really gets hot. -Original Message- From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim F. Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:22 AM To: top Band Subject: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread GeorgeWallner
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:01:12 -0400 Mike Greenway k...@bellsouth.net wrote: I wondered how long it would take before they started selling some RFI generating lighting. Soon we can have a complete neighborhood of RFI I have tested compact fluorescent bulbs a couple of years ago and found

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Jim F.
FCC Part 15 specs. Were they marked so? George, AA7JV   jim / W1FMR --- On Thu, 4/5/12, GeorgeWallner aa...@atlanticbb.net wrote: From: GeorgeWallner aa...@atlanticbb.net Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: TOPBAND TOPBAND@CONTESTING.COM Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 7

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread W5JR - Mike
In my day job with a national wireless carrier, noise from new green lighting systems are plaguing our base stations. I've been working with two major lighting vendors that are very serious about resolving the issue since the alternative is a date with the enforcement bureau. I don't think

Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference.

2012-04-05 Thread Charles Moizeau
bulbs bought from Home Depot meet FCC Part 15 specs. Were they marked so? George, AA7JV jim / W1FMR --- On Thu, 4/5/12, GeorgeWallner aa...@atlanticbb.net wrote: From: GeorgeWallner aa...@atlanticbb.net Subject: Re: Topband: Home Depot LED bulb interference. To: TOPBAND TOPBAND