Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/12/2021 10:48 AM, sawye...@earthlink.net wrote: Elevated 160M radials really need to be more like 20 – 25 ft above the ground to be efficient. Yes, this both my experience and the advice I got from N6BT, who has done LOTS of work with verticals. N6LF, who has also done lots of work

Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-12 Thread Grant Saviers
For a portable helix loaded 160m vertical, I measured 1 and 2 127ft radials at 3.5ft and 6.5ft above ground (average or worse) and found a significant difference in the resonance R. 1 radial 3.5ft 50 ohms 1 radial @ 6.5ft 33 ohms 2 radials @ 6.5ft 28 ohms Which quantified the change in ground

Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-12 Thread Dave Cuthbert
Rudy, N6LF, wrote a great article on his elevated radial experiments. https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/2012/02/elevated-radial-ground-systems-some-cautions.html Rudy says, "1) Use at least 10 to 12 radials. 2) Make an effort to have the radial system as symmetric as possible. 3) Keep the radial

Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-12 Thread sawyered
Mike, All ¼ wave verticals have the same elevation angles. The question is what is the feedpoint efficiency which is dominated by the ground. That ground is a combination of your soil characteristics and the radial field design. In my opinion, 2 elevated radials about 5 ft above the ground is

Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-11 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
Awesome. Thank you very much Dave ! Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From: Dave Cuthbert [mailto:telegraph...@gmail.com] Sent: January 11, 2021 5:59 PM To: Mike Smith VE9AA Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas? Okay, over "medium" GND (0.005S/13) it has the

Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-11 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
A Cc: topband Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas? Hi Mike, your inverted-J in EZNEC shows a radiation resistance at 1850kHz of 10 ohms. It is resonant at 1800kHz. With the 50' vertical wire removed it is resonant at 2.7MHz and has a radiation resistance at 1850kHz of 11

Re: Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-11 Thread Dave Cuthbert
Hi Mike, your inverted-J in EZNEC shows a radiation resistance at 1850kHz of 10 ohms. It is resonant at 1800kHz. With the 50' vertical wire removed it is resonant at 2.7MHz and has a radiation resistance at 1850kHz of 11 ohms. Dave KH6AQ On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:52 AM Mike Smith VE9AA

Topband: Inverted J antennas?

2021-01-11 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
Has anyone modeled an inverted J on 160m ? (almost an inverted U, really) I currently have only one left (the other half of my 2-el array blew down and I've been lazy to replace it) and it "works" but not as good as it could I think if I had better supports (ie: taller trees, wider yard). I