Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-05-06 Thread Mark Robinson
Roger, Take a look at this. I am thinking of building one this summer and hang it from a tall tree. https://www.yccc.org/Articles/double_l.htm 73 Mark N1UK  G3ZZM On 23-Mar-21 6:33 PM, Roger Kennedy wrote: Guy (K2AV) - I really liked your explanation about the function of a radial field

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Roger It sure seems like a lot of confusion arises when folks attempt concise electrical and mathematical thoughts and calculations using words with very broad and fuzzy definitions. Words like radial, vertical, topload, etc. can mean different things and can create remarkably confusing

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-23 Thread W7TMT - Patrick
Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:33:53 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question Guy (K2AV) - I really liked your explanation about the function of a radial field on a 160m vertical . . . and how the radials don't actually radiate. But I've

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-23 Thread W7TMT - Patrick
:53 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question Guy (K2AV) - I really liked your explanation about the function of a radial field on a 160m vertical . . . and how the radials don't actually radiate. But I've often thought about the other extreme

Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-23 Thread Roger Kennedy
Guy (K2AV) - I really liked your explanation about the function of a radial field on a 160m vertical . . . and how the radials don't actually radiate. But I've often thought about the other extreme . . . I have a homebrew 2m Ground Plane on top of my mast . . . just a quarter wave vertical . .

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
Inspect your feedline you plan to use (sounds like it is Heliax) and make sure the jacket is undamaged. If it is okay, you can bury it or just lay it on the ground and it won't matter if water covers it. Of more concern is keeping the junction where the feedline divides dry. If you use enough

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Adrian
Interesting page on the subject here ; https://ham.stackexchange.com/questions/3675/what-is-the-effect-of-using-different-number-of-radials-with-ground-plane-antenn On 23/3/21 1:55 pm, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: A counterpoise is what we do when the full size of a double-ended antenna, dipole,

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
A counterpoise is what we do when the full size of a double-ended antenna, dipole, OCF, etc is too large for us to build, maintain, etc. Very simply, we want to jam the energy from the shield of our coax into the counterpoise, and the energy from the center conductor into the radiating element,

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Adrian
Recycling signals at the feedpoint sounds more like a mismatch swr situation. The ground radials form half of the antenna, and that radiation from ground, in phase with the vertical radiation determines the field strength and take off angle. vk4tux On 23/3/21 11:31 am, Charles Moizeau

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Charles Moizeau
Brown Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 20:40 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question On 3/22/2021 2:41 PM, Carl Braun wrote: > Some brought up the idea of my ground mounted radials becoming submerged in > fresh water...however, that would onl

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/22/2021 2:41 PM, Carl Braun wrote: Some brought up the idea of my ground mounted radials becoming submerged in fresh water...however, that would only take place for a week or less during the spring here and, it would only happen if we had a slow snow pack melt and rain at the same time.

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Carl Braun
Topbanders Thanks to all who responded I received a lot of good advice and will be taking it. Specifically, the advice to bury the hardline rather than elevate it. Some brought up the idea of my ground mounted radials becoming submerged in fresh water...however, that would only take place

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Mpridesti via Topband
If the radials have a good chance be being submerged in fresh water, I would consider elevating the radials. Had an experience here where my 40 radials on each of my 4 square verticals were often times below the water level and radiation efficiency dropped like a rock. Great receive

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Wes
What's the perceived problem with the cable being submerged? Wes  N7WS On 3/21/2021 1:25 PM, Carl Braun wrote: Hello Topbanders I am currently awaiting the snow to melt here in the Northwoods of Wisconsin before starting the construction of my low band vertical array. My verticals will be

Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-21 Thread Carl Braun
Hello Topbanders I am currently awaiting the snow to melt here in the Northwoods of Wisconsin before starting the construction of my low band vertical array. My verticals will be mounted in a low ground area near a lake and the area tends to get wet and sometimes floods in the early spring.