After spending 12 nights-in-a-row straining to hear and
assemble thousands of weak calls, I would cautiously agree
with Herb: if the DX clearly has the prefix, just send the
missing letters.
Maybe it is mental, maybe something else, but time and
again I heard clearly (almost loud) the
I had this happen many times as well but it is especially annoying near the end
of the contest when seeking to find those last few contacts that I heard
fellows calling CQ and only sending their call ONCE and then maybe waiting 2
sec. or less before sending CQ again. Many times I could copy
George, IMO you have solved the problem ... mental. Your last sentence
describes the condition exactly ... your brain goes blank or slows as a
defence mechanism from all the noise/signals on the band.
Doug
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After spending 12 nights-in-a-row straining to hear and
I had this happen many times as well but it is especially annoying near the
end of the contest when seeking to find those last few contacts that I heard
fellows calling CQ and only sending their call ONCE and then maybe waiting 2
sec. or less before sending CQ again.
160, with changing noise
Thanks Herb,
That certainly removes the operator condition from the explanation. It will
be interesting to discover why the transmissions tail off. Is it
repeatable? For example if the same station keeps sending their call
between your HB9? does it consistently tail off each time they transmit
On 12/3/2012 8:26 PM, Augie Gus Hansen wrote:
as in CQ TEST KB0YH, with about a 1-2 second loop delay.
I have NEVER found a CQ repeat interfal less than 2.5 seconds to be
adequate to actually LISTEN for callers, and I often use 3 seconds.
I strongly agree with the need to keep CQs short. I
I worked a whole bunch of Europeans in the 160 meter contest along with
UA9's and even 4Z1UF who had a good signal. My pet peeve is that when I
hear only a weaker stations prefix but miss the suffix and ask for a
repeat and request for example HB9 ? AGN all I hear is the prefix
before the
Subject: Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
IMHO, this depends on what mode you are in. If you are searching and
pouncing he already knows your call as he came back and gave you a report.
So 5nn and section is perfectly fine here. If you are running, then sending
his call and the report
When a cw station asks for a fill I send my COMPLETE callsign. Why?
a) My memory keyer or logging program has my full callsign, no partial
callsign. I don't use the hand keyer just in case I have 'dead' fingers and
make a mistake.
b) It allows the other station to focus on my signal when other
Hi Jim,
as in CQ TEST KB0YH, with about a 1-2 second loop delay.
I have NEVER found a CQ repeat interfal less than 2.5 seconds to be
adequate to actually LISTEN for callers, and I often use 3 seconds.
You're right. I wasn't near the radio last night so I guessed at my
delay setting. I just
Jim F. wrote:
Excellent advice Rick !!!
I get tripped up when a CQing station leaves too long a gap
between his last callsign and Test and I start sending too
early.
And your QRP tips are very well taken.
73, Jim / W1FMR
Thanks.
I stopped sending test after my call for
3. Send only 5NN section. Do not send my call, BK, etc
I'll actually disagree with this. Sending my call eliminates any
confusion about who is being worked. In many situations on 160 - it is
very handy. I once got called by W8JI after 10 minutes of CQing with no
answers. I wasn't really
and I'm sticking to it! 72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:16:27 -0800
From: rich...@karlquist.com
To: j_fit...@yahoo.com
CC: topband@contesting.com; rich...@karlquist.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
Jim F. wrote:
Excellent advice Rick !!!
I
: rich...@karlquist.com
To: j_fit...@yahoo.com
CC: topband@contesting.com; rich...@karlquist.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
Jim F. wrote:
Excellent advice Rick !!!
I get tripped up when a CQing station leaves too long a gap
between his last callsign
Tree wrote:
3. Send only 5NN section. Do not send my call, BK, etc
I'll actually disagree with this. Sending my call eliminates any
confusion about who is being worked. In many situations on 160 - it is
very handy. I once got called by W8JI after 10 minutes of CQing with no
answers. I
...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:55 PM
To: Jim F.
Cc: top Band; Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Subject: Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
3. Send only 5NN section. Do not send my call, BK, etc
I'll actually disagree with this. Sending my call eliminates any
Tree wrote:
I think I was misunderstood
CQ TEST N6TR N6TR TEST
N6RO
N6RO 5NN OR
N6TR 5NN EBay
73 N6TR
Having Ken send N6TR makes it clear he is working me and not someone else
I
can't hear.
Actually what Ken sends me is:
me: CQ TEST N6RK N6RK
Ken: N6RK N6RO
me: N6RO 5NN SV
ken:
If I send CQ...CQ...K9JWV...K9JWV...K - and someone arrives on frequency
...
Which gives me an opening to air a pet peeve. NEVER when contesting (or
DXing) send a K after your call sign! Maybe not so bad for a 1x3 or 2x3
(though still possibly confusing with QSB) but it can be deadly with a 1x2
I completely agree from the perspective of penalties. Lately I have
taken to purposely not working stations where there is the possibility
of working the wrong station or miscopy. The penalty imposed by
organizers is greater than the missed Q. I ascribe to the system Tree
suggests:
CQ K6XT
On 12/3/2012 4:58 PM, James Rodenkirch wrote:
...
Signing after the last sent call with a test removes all
ambiguity.
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the contact in the 160m contest. (I could have used a call
from you in the SSB sweepstakes in which I missed a sweep by only UT.)
I offer an
-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:55 PM
To: Jim F.
Cc: top Band; Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Subject: Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
3. Send only 5NN section. Do not send my call, BK, etc
I'll actually disagree
N1MM: You can press ALT + W , or program one of the function keys with
{WIPE}. I have F12 set like this, for those not so rare times that the call I
entered is so fumble-fingered that using backspace or arrow keys is hopeless:
better to start fresh. Of course, by the time I've retyped the
@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
N1MM: You can press ALT + W , or program one of the function keys with
{WIPE}. I have F12 set like this, for those not so rare times that the call
I entered is so fumble-fingered that using backspace or arrow keys is
hopeless: better
TX antenna, never gave me so much as a QRZ for the several dozen times I
called, and had his auto CQ set for a very short recycle time.
One of the reasons why people do the short CQ recycle is to
be able to hold the frequency. This morning a well known
op who should have known better sent ?,
Fellow Lowbanders and Contesters. . .
I'm reminded of some not so new wisdom from operating the contest last night.
Big stations, don't forget to listen for the weak signals. It may be well be
DX calling you among the cacophony of stateside callers. It pays periodically
to stop and ask for
!
Great post, Dave! 72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV
From: daraym...@iowatelecom.net
To: topband@contesting.com
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 15:11:32 -0600
Subject: Topband: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest
Fellow Lowbanders and Contesters. . .
I'm reminded of some not so new wisdom from operating
On 12/1/2012 1:11 PM, David Raymond wrote:
You smaller stations, particularly QRP, most of the bigger stations will really
work hard to pull you through for a successful QSO.
Some harder than others. W0SD gave my QRP signal a real good try early
in the evening, but couldn't get the
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