Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-28 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
This being made is that anyone could improperly, illegally, whatever use their own call...Ie a USA call from an Italy remote to work some rare DX. It certainly can and it probably happens. Cheaters will cheat. I don't compare my DXCC to anyone else. I have no clue how they did it and don't

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-28 Thread Michael Tope
Doug, I don't think using remotes in different countries would be permitted even under the most liberal interpretation of the new ARRL DXCC rules. As far as I know, for example, using the RHR site in Sicily would require me to sign IT9/W4EF. If I were to simply sign W4EF, I would likely not

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Michael Adams
.) -- Michael Adams | N1EN | m...@n1en.org -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, 27 February, 2015 11:01 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Remote now DXCC?? Why are we centered on remote

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Doug Renwick
Yes the DXCC award you have earned is yours. But the problem is the publishing of the standings. The cheaters, commercial RHR users, ethical types are all grouped together. If the standings were not published, highlighted, promoted then it would be a personal award. But when ALL are grouped

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Why does publishing the results change anything. Is there a prize for being Honor Roll number 1? How do you account for all the other dirty contacts on the DXCC rolls? Those are just ignored and only remote contacts are the problem? Once again they publish where you stand. If guess if you

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Larry
You are suggesting something like WAS where all QSO have to be made within a 25 mile radius (something close to that). 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From: Michael Adams Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:24 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC

Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Why are we centered on remote operations dirtying up the DXCC program? DXCC is far from clean now and from the limited amount of reading available people have been scamming DXCC long before I was licensed in 1978. The ARRL recognizes that this is a new and upcoming technology and the more

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Doug Renwick
Response below *** -Original Message- Why does publishing the results change anything. Is there a prize for being Honor Roll number 1? *** yes How do you account for all the other dirty contacts on the DXCC rolls? Those are just ignored and only remote contacts are the problem?

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Gary Smith
*** Let me help out here. I have gone on record in past postings that I personally do NOT have a problem with remote operations in the vicinity of their home station. The problem is people using remotes in different countries and on different sides of the continent to inflate their

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Doug Renwick
Yes you are probably right that protesting won't change a thing. But should that mean that when something negative like this happens, that voicing an objection is not considered? Should we just shrug and say 'whatever'. Some do say whatever. Yes cheating has been around for some time. The

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Mark Langenfeld
The irony of setting out to win at all costs is that it cheapens the victories. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread Gary Smith
It's not that my opinion really matters to anyone but me. I was thinking more that right or wrong, somebody somewhere will do wrong. I wasn't thinking as much along the lines of the complaining not helping (which it doesn't). For instance: In my garage I have a tool, a 9 pound sledge hammer

Re: Topband: Remote now DXCC??

2015-02-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
What bad thing happened? A bunch of guys made contacts. Nothing bad happened. A sick station owner gets to build a station and have people operate it. In this case nothing bad happened. Why turn this into a witch hunt? Everything was LEGAL! Mike W0MU On 2/27/2015 2:07 PM, Doug Renwick