Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-08 Thread Frank W3LPL
"topband" Sent: Friday, April 8, 2022 5:57:03 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast Some years ago, I recall an AM station in Washington, DC, having their tower on the roof of a three story building. It was either a unipole or had skirted radials. I w

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-08 Thread Hamilton Hicks,Jr
Some years ago, I recall an AM station in Washington, DC, having their tower on the roof of a three story building. It was either a unipole or had skirted radials. I want to say that it may have been1340 khz. HamKB4BR On Thursday, April 7, 2022, 12:54:47 PM EDT, Kenneth Grimm wrote:

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-08 Thread Terry Conboy
Top hats could be skirts if you feed the antenna through them.  This design looks a lot like a “conical monopole”. Is there a distinction? Terry N6RY > On 2022 Apr 7, at 3:38 AM, Rich Dailey, N8UX > wrote: > > So top hats are now skirts.~ N8UX > _ > Searchable Archives:

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-08 Thread Frank W3LPL
Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "topband" To: "Grant Saviers" Cc: "topband" Sent: Friday, April 8, 2022 3:22:24 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast And then there is this: https://en.wikipedia.or

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-08 Thread James V Redding PE via Topband
And then there is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_antenna#/media/File:Main_antenna_feed_Anthorn.jpg If you had one of these in your backyard, I am sure the entire state would decide it was causing TVI. 19.6 khz. Jim 'VEZ On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:19 PM Grant Saviers wrote: > I

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-08 Thread GEORGE WALLNER
I have been using at C6AGU a similar design that I call "Fat Vertical". Scroll down on the C6AGU QRZ.com page to see a picture of it. The antenna is 60' tall with sloping loading wires attached to the outer corners of the "fat wires". Feed point impedance is 12 - 120 Ohms, which is matched by a

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread Grant Saviers
I think the disc-cone is a close relative. There is one of these on the bow of the Iowa BB in Long Beach. During a tour by W6HB, I was told they would have 25+ full duplex TTY circuits open at one time on this and 4 whip antennas mounted on the superstructure. Another piece of battleship

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread James V Redding PE via Topband
See https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/AD0693997 Sort of worthless as the takeoff angle snf gain is not as good as collinear arrays or rhombics. 2:1 frequency at 75 ohms. Visible in pictures ot WW2 ship fore decks. Jim/VEZ On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 12:54 PM Kenneth Grimm wrote: > The first

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread Kenneth Grimm
The first time I saw one it was called the Folded Umbrella and was popularized by the late WB5IIR, John Haerle. He wrote an article for HR in May of 1979. He also described it in his book, "The Easy Way." I've been using my own version of the basic design on 160 for several years. 73, Ken -

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread Mark - N5OT
Conical Monopole Say that fast 3 times: Conical Monopole Conical Monopole Conical Monopole Right.  The first time I saw one, it was called a Folded Unipole. My 160 support can be probably 80' or 24 meters.  I have considered my options for broad-banding it for 160.  This is one of the

Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread Robert Parkes via Topband
The design or at least many like it have been around for years.Otherwise known as a Conical Monopole 73sBobG3REP _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread Rich Dailey, N8UX
So top hats are now skirts.~ N8UX _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
>I'm surprised that the broadcast industry is just discoving [sic] this topic. What makes you think it is just being discovered? Rob K5UJ _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-07 Thread ok1cf
I have been using a similar antenna for 160m for several years. I described it on my QRZ.com website. Karel OK1CF -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 5:44 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF

Re: Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-06 Thread Joe
That's a very interesting antenna. I wish it had a spec of freq in the drawing so it could be scaled to 160 or 80 meters. Joe WB9SBD On 4/6/2022 7:00 PM, Radio KH6O wrote: I'm surprised that the broadcast industry is just discoving this topic. My library of decades-old antenna handbooks

Topband: Skirted vertical antennas for MF broadcast

2022-04-06 Thread Radio KH6O
I'm surprised that the broadcast industry is just discoving this topic. My library of decades-old antenna handbooks covers this quite well: