Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER Except you can't buy them now. From DXE website: Not Available At This Time This product cannot be ordered at this time. Future availability is unknown. We apologize for the inconvenience Wes N7WS On 12/24/2022 6:25 PM, David Raymond wrote: There's

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

, December 27, 2022 5:05 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER Except you can't buy them now. From DXE website: Not Available At This Time This product cannot be ordered at this time. Future availability is unknown

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Except you can't buy them now.  From DXE website: Not Available At This Time This product cannot be ordered at this time. Future availability is unknown. We apologize for the inconvenience Wes  N7WS On 12/24/2022 6:25 PM, David Raymond wrote: There's no need for a lot of real estate to

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

I had an interesting experience along these lines back in 2006 for the CQ WW 160 CW contest. Following the lead of K6SE and others, I got permission from the Bureau of Land Management to operate from the salt evaporation ponds on Koehn dry-lake near Mojave, California. I spent all day Thursday

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Thanks for this George. When I posted earlier I said: "Looking at my chances of working 3Y the optimum time is their sunrise (~3:30Z) when I am in complete darkness and straight across the terminator. They will have the sunlit ocean to their rear and the S. American landmass toward me.  Maybe

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

In my experience, a DXpedition does not need an RX antenna on 160 for the first two to three days. During that time they are working the big guns with strong signals. The RX antenna is needed to give the weaker stations a chance once the big guns are out of the way. In case of Bouvet, most of

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

There's no need for a lot of real estate to get good RX performance.  The Hi-Z three element and four element phased vertical arrays have a small footprint and yield a worthwhile and useful RDF.  The vertical elements are essentially ground independent, can be made of almost anything, and can

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Yep. I have 8.5 acres, and it was tricky finding suitable locations for a pair of full-wave reversible 160M Beverages oriented to EU/VK and SA/JA. Feedpoints and terminations of both are at limits of my property, and the EU/VK Beverage terminates on my neighbor's property, installed there 15

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

With all due respect there is an awful lot of presumption here.  Not everyone has the space for one or more Beverage antennas.  I have 1 3/4 acre but the way my vertical, HF tower, house, neighbors' houses, etc are sited there isn't room for an array of Beverage antennas. Wes  N7WS On

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

All, Kindly direct questions to this group, and not to me privately. TIA. 73 Mike W0BTU On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 1:49 PM Mike Waters wrote: > Oops! DON'T use an RF choke for a single-wire Beverage. Just the OY 470 > ohm resistor to a good RF ground. Sorry. > > 73 Mike > W0BTU > > On Sat, Dec 24,

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Oops! DON'T use an RF choke for a single-wire Beverage. Just the OY 470 ohm resistor to a good RF ground. Sorry. 73 Mike W0BTU On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 1:44 PM Mike Waters wrote: > You need to drain off the snow static etc. with a resistor in series with > a proper RF choke. The values are on

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

You need to drain off the snow static etc. with a resistor in series with a proper RF choke. The values are on this page. And buy the Ohmite resistor specified! :-) https://web.archive.org/web/20181115070846/http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 12:34 PM Wes wrote:

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Yes, the advantages of having good Beverage antennas in addition to an inverted-L are very well established indeed. I (and thousands of other Topbanders) can vouch for that from personal experience. Yes, there are times when your inverted-L will out-hear good Beverages. Even DX, *but that is the

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Thanks Charlie for the insight.  I just rewatched the video of your expedition.  Very cool, no pun intended.   Sorry I wasn't a topband guy back then. Just worked you guys on 20 CW and SSB.  I worked FB8XV in 1979, also on 20 SSB. Did you have RX antennas that allowed you to work through the

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Rune has kindly spoken up, making some of this discussion moot but I will continue anyway. I appreciate everyone's comments. With respect to Jim's concerns about QRM I have thought about that, but did not mention it earlier. I use DX Atlas, in fact I have presented about the program to my DX

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

This antenna will not be effective on TB regardless of the preamp used.  Hopefully they won't be fighting much noise allowing the TX antenna to hear reasonably well. 73 and Christmas Blessings/Happy Holidays. . . Dave, W0FLS On 12/23/2022 7:46 PM, JC wrote: Hi topband lovers Some

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

I was one of the 160m ops at "nearby" FT5XO. I can tell you that when the WX was good the TX antennas worked very well for receiving. When the WX turned bad, such as during the snow storm we worked through, the 160m TX antennas were very noisyjust as noisy as those anywhere on the planet.

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

On 12/23/2022 8:12 PM, n...@comcast.net wrote: I missed the second question. I understand Wes's point quite well. I have friends who operate 6M from very remote places where there is no local noise to light up rare grids. They're rare because no one lives there to create noise. The vast

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

ned us. So, conclusion a RX antenna can dig you signal out of the noise. 73's JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of Wes Sent: Friday, December 23, 2022 9:45 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

All interesting.  But let me ask (and standby for flames) what is wrong with them simply listening on the TX antenna? I know, I know, conventional wisdom says that you can't possibly work 160 DX without a separate RX antenna.  I'll confess that I am a little pistol and will never be on the TB

Re: Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Doug NX4D asked me to add his comments, Hey JC and Topbanders, This is meant as a suggestion, not a criticism. The reason I sounded an alarm to JC was the concern that the proposed SALAD/ LZ1AQ 160m receive loops by the upcoming Bouvet DXpedition/ 3Y0J are much too small for receiving weak

Topband: Small Loop does not receive weak signal on 160m BOUVET RX SPOILER

Hi topband lovers Some friends contact me with deep concerns about the next Bouvet DX expedition receiver antenna called SALAD Salad antenna I understand the concerns, Bouvet on 160m is a lifetime