Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
@contesting.com ; Martinhamra...@vr-web.de *Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:43 PM *Subject:* Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300 #2 powdered iron at mu of 10 is the lowest mu of the powdered iron types listed with a frequency range that covers 160 meters (in some lists #2 is 2-30). You can

Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Martin
For those who intend to build the FCP INV. L. with a T-200-2 (or an antenna tuner). Me and a few guys from our club wound different types of baluns and chokes on different material and measured them with a analyser. We found the T-200-2 next to useless below 3 Mhz due to a low AL value (uH/100

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Mikael Larsmark
OK, but there is a huge amount of different materials in ferrites too. Which kind of material did you use? I've used -61 material in a lot of high power applications without any problems of them overheating. You barely feel any temperature raise in them at all if for example using them as a

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Tod - ID
A couple rules for toroidal inductors might be useful. To increase the reactance you increase the number of turns -- the inductance goes up approximately the square of the number of turns. To increase the power handling capability you add additional cores to make a stack of cores. This will

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Rick Karlquist
Martin wrote: BUT if you go QRO, you should stick with the iron powder cores. I once replaced the T-200-2 in my homebrew s-match with a ferrite. I changed back the same day, cuz after a few seconds with 750W the ferrite got so hot you would not want to touch it. The T-200-2 runs cool over

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Tod - Idaho
to go off and buy parts and build. The URL for his article is: www.audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf Tod, K0TO -Original Message- From: ZR [mailto:z...@jeremy.mv.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:04 AM To: Tod - ID; Martin Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: T-200 vs

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
For those building an isolation transformer for a 160M 5/16 FCP -- PLEASE READ! IMPORTANT! Martin has the right instincts, says it feels fishy for this. But it's worse than he thinks. And don't even consider using ferrites. The T300A-2 core and 20 bifilar turns were SPECIFICALLY chosen to

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Rick Karlquist
Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Martin has the right instincts, says it feels fishy for this. But it's worse than he thinks. And don't even consider using ferrites. The T300A-2 core and 20 bifilar turns were SPECIFICALLY chosen to produce a residual inductance value in the right order of

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
, December 15, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300 The Amidon T300A-2 can be replaced with a stacked PAIR of Amidon T300-2, with a SINGLE Micrometals T300-2D, or a stacked PAIR of Micrometals T300-2. You can find the Micrometals cores on eBay. You CAN use the Amidon T400A-2

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Rick, No magic. Just the right stuff, for the FCP, anyway. To your particulars, when Jerry Sevick measured various ferrites, he measured the lowest loss at mu=40. This was very low, as was the #2 powdered iron at mu=10, the lowest of the powdered iron formulas. So use of ferrites

Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300

2011-12-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
:05 PM Subject: Re: Topband: T-200 vs. T-300 Hi Rick, No magic. Just the right stuff, for the FCP, anyway. To your particulars, when Jerry Sevick measured various ferrites, he measured the lowest loss at mu=40. This was very low, as was the #2 powdered iron at mu=10, the lowest