Some consider DXCC a competition and want a level playing field.
Some consider DXCC a personal goal and don't care what others are doing.
73..de John/K4WJ
On 7/12/2015 8:20 PM, Cecil wrote:
Well for one thing your $100,000 station doesn't magically appear anywhere in
the country just by
Ken,
I hear what you are trying to convey but there is a fly in the ointment.
I am not trying to impress anyone else. For me it is and always has been a
personal achievement.
No one here is concerned with diminishing their abilities to impress others as
you have stated.
These issues you
Amen.
On 2015-07-12 16:28, Dave Heil wrote:
Bill,
There was no competition among those who walked to school, no matter
what the distance. There were no awards, annual listings, pins,
certificates, plaques or such.
The internet is akin to telephones and cable television more than to
amateur
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Well for one thing your $100,000 station doesn't magically appear
anywhere in the country just by selecting a new location on the computer
screen because where it's located
I think much of the issue with RHR is people are bent out of shape that
a group of people have jumped on this and appear to be doing quite
well. Business must be booming as they are adding new stations constantly.
Personally I have a decent station and am not interested in renting
station
It's obvious the DXCC award system is not important to you by your own
admission, which doesn't put you in the best of positions to be so vocal about
paid/shared remote station access and its impact on the award systems.
Call it what you will it's very competitive...in an individualized sort of
Well said Dave!
On 7/12/2015 10:49 AM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
The reaction of the DXing community to new technology over the years has been
extremely interesting to observe. Some ops are early
adopters, applying every bleeding-edge technology available that isn't explicitly
prohibited by the
Of Cecil
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Well for one thing your $100,000 station doesn't magically appear anywhere
in the country just by selecting a new location on the computer screen
because where it's located
I consider it another form of cheating. Regardless of what the ARRL says.
Since when has the ARRL - DXCC been a bastion of ethics? IMO ARRL ethics is
an oxymoron.
Without inserting politics into the discussion, all one has to do is look at
what is going in the world around us and it is clear
Remote stations should be operated in the assisted class during contests..
As far as DXCC, how about an endorsement for all stations who earned it
using only their local station?
My $0.02
Art NK8X
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net wrote:
I consider it another
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So what is the difference if I build a station for $100,000 or I rent one
for whatever it costs? Nothing. I guess the guy
My 2 cents.
73 Hardy N7RT
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Well for one thing your $100,000 station
,
right? This is not my radio
My 2 cents.
73 Hardy N7RT
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Well for one
So what is the difference if I build a station for $100,000 or I rent
one for whatever it costs? Nothing. I guess the guy that can't climb
towers who has to pay someone else to climb it and fix his stuff should
be shoved into another category too?
I must have missed what is the big prize
Well for one thing your $100,000 station doesn't magically appear anywhere in
the country just by selecting a new location on the computer screen because
where it's located at the moment ain't getting the job donebig difference!
I don't have any problem with remote ham radio for general ham
Bill,
There was no competition among those who walked to school, no matter
what the distance. There were no awards, annual listings, pins,
certificates, plaques or such.
The internet is akin to telephones and cable television more than to
amateur radio. If you're making your way to
So much for civility.
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So what is the difference if I build a station for $100,000 or I rent
Well folks, I have just about had it with this thread and the group. I had
joined the group to possibly help my knowledge of operating and building
equipment and antennas for 80 and 160 meters, not to be bombarded with a ton of
messages of how the entire ham community feels about what is
Will the last guy who actually emits RF from his station please remember to
turn off the rig.
K5RK
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Sad indeed to see the post this morning. The idiom “the means justify the end”
is true in this case for sure. I guess eventually the rules will say lets just
call them on the phone and exchange reports, as we are near that with remotes
now. That makes it easier and I guess that is what
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your comments. I may seem like a true heretic being on this
list. I'm not a *real* contester and even less a *real* DXer. I do have
QSOs with DX stations on several bands. But I don't reject QSOs with
U.S. or Canadian stations (Canada is only a small handful of miles from
Good morning. I have followed with interest the discussion on this subject. I
enjoyed hearing both sides of the issue from my fellow DXers. Most of the
replies have been both thoughtful and respectful and I thank you for that.
I thought you may find it interesting to hear a comment from the
The reaction of the DXing community to new technology over the years has been
extremely interesting to observe. Some ops are early
adopters, applying every bleeding-edge technology available that isn't
explicitly prohibited by the rules. At the other extreme
are ops who effectively camp on the
Hi Mike,
There really is a difference among all the people who walked to school
and back every school day for 12 years or so. Some of them lived across
the street and others lived ten miles away, uphill both ways evil
grin. I do see that somebody who did all of a DX challenge from their
home
...Will the last guy who actually emits RF from his station please remember to
turn off the rig...
Why bother ? There'll be nobody listening !
73 de Mort, SV5/G2JL
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: The Remote question
Good morning. I have followed with interest the discussion on this subject. I
enjoyed hearing both sides of the issue from my fellow DXers. Most of the
replies have been both thoughtful and respectful and I thank you for that.
I thought you may find it interesting to hear
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