Hi All, Thanks for all reply regarding HC1PF on top band. I will respond to each direct emails 73 Rune LA7THA
> From: topband-requ...@contesting.com > Subject: Topband Digest, Vol 146, Issue 28 > To: topband@contesting.com > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 05:23:29 -0500 > > Send Topband mailing list submissions to > topband@contesting.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > topband-requ...@contesting.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > topband-ow...@contesting.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Topband digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Felipe Fogagnolo) > 2. 8R on 160m? (Neil Carr) > 3. Re: 8R on 160m? (?????? ???????) > 4. Re: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Steve HA0DU) > 5. Re: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Dick Grolleman) > 6. Re: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 (Dave Heil) > 7. My new one (Andrzej_SP6AEG) > 8. Re: HVDC (Carl) > 9. K1N 5000q's on 160 (Jos? E. Ribeiro de S?) > 10. 1/2 wave inv L (Art Snapper) > 11. Re: 1/2 wave inv L (Richard (Rick) Karlquist) > 12. Re: 1/2 wave inv L (Art Snapper) > 13. What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > (Herbert Schoenbohm) > 14. Re: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > (Richard (Rick) Karlquist) > 15. Re: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > (Herbert Schoenbohm) > 16. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Garry Shapiro) > 17. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Garry Shapiro) > 18. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Jim Brown) > 19. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Eugene Popov /RA0FF/) > 20. K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M (Milt -- N5IA) > 21. Re: K1N 5000q's on 160 (Milt -- N5IA) > 22. HC1PF Luis on TB (Rune ?ye) > 23. Re: HC1PF Luis on TB (Guy Olinger K2AV) > 24. Re: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? (Tom W8JI) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:34:33 -0200 > From: Felipe Fogagnolo <brpo...@gmail.com> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 > Message-ID: > <cah52xzqdsxyvbuwxhtrj8ixiswnhlq4kehrwyzjw+nxrpp+...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > PP5FF . > > I sent an email to Jaime PP5JD PQ0T operator, about activation in 160 . > > R: > Hello Felipe , we will operate 160m , but little things as we would it > ONLY 2 Nights , and When liver hum available Operator > > we will be a few hours p / week . > > WHEN speak in 80m , ask if we can do QSY p / 160 . > > 73, Jaime PP5JD > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:35:59 -0000 > From: "Neil Carr" <g0...@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: 8R on 160m? > Message-ID: <003601d04945$dca86960$95f93c20$@blueyonder.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I swapped emails with 4 European "top gun" operators of late, all in the > 270-290 DXCC bracket and all who still needed 8R on 160m. I assumed I had > just been incompetent in missing this one so far, (QRV since 2007) but it > seems quite rare? I don't know how rare 8R is in NA, but certainly the past > 10 yrs it hasn't been too active on 160m? The purpose of this email to the > reflector is to "Put it on the list" of any of you fine folk who can go on > DXpedition and are thinking "where next" . It would be a good one to choose > Winter 2015. I appreciate it is far from rare on ANY of the other bands. > Which may be the problem. > > Neil G0JHC > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:54:54 +0300 > From: ?????? ??????? <u...@mail.ru> > To: Neil Carr <g0...@blueyonder.co.uk> > Cc: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: 8R on 160m? > Message-ID: <1424022894.584857...@f216.i.mail.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Yes Neil, Ineed 8R on 160... > Have CFM 291 countrys > 73! > > ???????????, 15 ??????? 2015, 17:35 UTC ?? "Neil Carr" > <g0...@blueyonder.co.uk>: > >I swapped emails with 4 European "top gun" operators of late, all in the > >270-290 DXCC bracket and all who still needed 8R on 160m. I assumed I had > >just been incompetent in missing this one so far, (QRV since 2007) but it > >seems quite rare? I don't know how rare 8R is in NA, but certainly the past > >10 yrs it hasn't been too active on 160m? The purpose of this email to the > >reflector is to "Put it on the list" of any of you fine folk who can go on > >DXpedition and are thinking "where next" . It would be a good one to choose > >Winter 2015. I appreciate it is far from rare on ANY of the other bands. > >Which may be the problem. > > > >Neil G0JHC > > > >? > > > >? > > > >? > > > > > >_________________ > >Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:16:59 +0100 > From: Steve HA0DU <ha...@dx.hu> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 > Message-ID: <54e0e29b.3040...@dx.hu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hopefully they do a better job on 160, than PP0T, who worked 6 stations > (including 3 Europeans) on 160 in about six weeks time... > > > > 2015.02.15. 18:34 keltez?ssel, Felipe Fogagnolo ?rta: > > PP5FF . > > > > I sent an email to Jaime PP5JD PQ0T operator, about activation in 160 . > > > > R: > > Hello Felipe , we will operate 160m , but little things as we would it > > ONLY 2 Nights , and When liver hum available Operator > > > > we will be a few hours p / week . > > > > WHEN speak in 80m , ask if we can do QSY p / 160 . > > > > 73, Jaime PP5JD > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > > > --- > Ezt az e-mailt az Avast v?ruskeres? szoftver ?tvizsg?lta. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:27:40 +0100 > From: "Dick Grolleman" <groll...@planet.nl> > To: <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 > Message-ID: <F92F200E87EA48A4B963B9D0DDFE4CA8@Dick> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=response > > ZY0T did work some 160m in October 2009. > 119 QSOs : EU 79; NA 32; SA 8 > > I was lucky with that one. > Maybe ask PY1NB what he used for antenna on TB. > They were only on for 4 days. > > 73 de Dick PA3FQA > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Steve HA0DU > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:16 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 > > Hopefully they do a better job on 160, than PP0T, who worked 6 stations > (including 3 Europeans) on 160 in about six weeks time... > > > > 2015.02.15. 18:34 keltez?ssel, Felipe Fogagnolo ?rta: > > PP5FF . > > > > I sent an email to Jaime PP5JD PQ0T operator, about activation in 160 . > > > > R: > > Hello Felipe , we will operate 160m , but little things as we would it > > ONLY 2 Nights , and When liver hum available Operator > > > > we will be a few hours p / week . > > > > WHEN speak in 80m , ask if we can do QSY p / 160 . > > > > 73, Jaime PP5JD > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > > > --- > Ezt az e-mailt az Avast v?ruskeres? szoftver ?tvizsg?lta. > http://www.avast.com > > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:10:06 +0000 > From: Dave Heil <k...@frontiernet.net> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: PQ0T active in 160 > Message-ID: <54e0ef0e.3020...@frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > As did PW0T in 2005. I don't know how many 160m QSOs they made but I > worked and confirmed them. > > 73, > > Dave K8MN > > > On 2/15/2015 18 27, Dick Grolleman wrote: > > ZY0T did work some 160m in October 2009. > > 119 QSOs : EU 79; NA 32; SA 8 > > > > I was lucky with that one. > > Maybe ask PY1NB what he used for antenna on TB. > > They were only on for 4 days. > > > > 73 de Dick PA3FQA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:10:55 +0100 > From: "Andrzej_SP6AEG" <andrzej_...@interia.pl> > To: <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: My new one > Message-ID: <E8F6EE3528774E41AAB9741CF78EF3D0@andy> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At this moment, I hope that this season will end up not so bad for me. I > didn't manage to call-out for VK9DLX, 5R8M. > > I have tried K1N every night when they were active, more than 10 hours of > calling in total, but with no response. > > I've got over 260 entities cfm for TB. I hope that 8R and PQ0T will be my > new ones for 160 and will turn the streak of bad luck from me. > > Running below 800 wtts into T antenna. > > > > 73 de Andy > > SP6AEG > > from the old school > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:24:21 -0500 > From: "Carl" <k...@jeremy.qozzy.com> > To: <topband@contesting.com>, "Ws9v" <w...@royell.net>, "Jeff Kincaid" > <w...@sbcglobal.net>, <mstang...@comcast.net>, "Mike Waters" > <mikew...@gmail.com>, <n0...@juno.com>, <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>, > "Grant Saviers" <gran...@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: Topband: HVDC > Message-ID: <611E008F1949421FB05ACB24A0BA85DC@computer1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > A 500KV DC line that is part of the major Northeast corridor has been about > 3/4 mile from me for 15 years or so and absolutely quiet as are the much > older 100 and 250 KV AC lines in the same Northeast corridor which > originates in Hydro Quebec and the Seabrook nuke. My noise sources are > always the residential 14KV ones or from homes and farm barns. > > Carl > KM1H > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ws9v" <w...@royell.net> > To: <topband@contesting.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:52 PM > Subject: Topband: HVDC > > > > Hi All > > > > > > Through the center part of Illinois they have begun work at the government > > level to install a 690,000 VDC power line As with all this there is huge > > amount of opposition an even groups trying to ban it > > > > Does anyone have any experience with a line of such high VDC as a noise > > source ? It will pass within 3/4 of a mile south of my QTH > > > > > > > > I am really concerned my only hope if this goes thru is to pull up stakes > > an move rather than attempt to fight its noise > > > > Any thoughts > > > > de WS9V Skip > > > > > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4284/9090 - Release Date: 02/10/15 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:32:03 -0000 > From: Jos? E. Ribeiro de S? <zemurt...@mail.telepac.pt> > To: "Herbert Schoenbohm" <he...@vitelcom.net>, "TopBand List" > <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > Message-ID: <C3584C7A00A24B16A926070A62C16C76@ct1eeb> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Excellent indeed, made my topband QSO with K1N in the first couple of days > of operation :) > > Just wished VU4KV and EP6T did like this, but they haven't dedicated to > topband that much, maybe next time. > > 73 Jose CT1EEB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Herbert Schoenbohm" <he...@vitelcom.net> > To: "TopBand List" <topband@contesting.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 1:21 PM > Subject: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > > > >I just had a short chat with Jerry on 40 meters and he reported they logged > >over 5,000 contacts on 160 meters. This is nothing short of awesome and > >significantly helped somewhat by gaining access to the lighthouse as a > >support for their low band dipoles on TX. But without a doubt the devotion > >by this group to topband should not go unrewarded. Even if you did not need > >Navassa on 160 their efforts on TB stand as an excellent example of how > >import the inclusion of specialized operators and equipment are. > > > > On a related note, PQ0T will be on from Trindade (rare on 160) but have no > > plans to operate on Top Band. The may however, if the emails keep coming > > into them showing the demand, may try to load something up on 160 for at > > least one of the three nights they are there. > > > > > > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:35:33 -0500 > From: Art Snapper <a...@nk8x.net> > To: 160 <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: 1/2 wave inv L > Message-ID: > <cah6jzykupeor89zq+ft2n43mdg3hxhiiwzeh2q8d+xxioqy...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have been researching the inverted L for 160, and have received much > helpful information. - Thanks! > > Today I stumbled across a document regarding the 1/2 wave inverted L. > > Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison? > > 73 > Art NK8X > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:52:44 -0800 > From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <rich...@karlquist.com> > To: Art Snapper <a...@nk8x.net>, 160 <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Re: Topband: 1/2 wave inv L > Message-ID: <54e1233c.3030...@karlquist.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 2/15/2015 2:35 PM, Art Snapper wrote: > > I have been researching the inverted L for 160, and have received much > > helpful information. - Thanks! > > > > Today I stumbled across a document regarding the 1/2 wave inverted L. > > > > Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison? > > Art NK8X > > _________________ > > I have modeled it and the results are predictable. About > half your power goes into likely useless horizontally > polarized radiation. If you instead make a top loaded > ("T" type) vertical where the sum of the height and half > the top wire is a half wave, then you get a "voltage fed" > vertical that behaves pretty much like a half wave > vertical. Since the drive impedance is high, you MIGHT > get away with a much less extensive counterpoise. > There is some controversy about this. > > Rick N6RK > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:12:27 -0500 > From: Art Snapper <a...@nk8x.net> > To: 160 <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Re: Topband: 1/2 wave inv L > Message-ID: > <CAH6Jzym7UBkH1R5yx_V71=mR3CKLo7BUV2xNgtm=oprpcrv...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Here is a link to the document. > > http://www.mfjenterprises.com/antennatalk7.php > > There is very little information, but don't recall seeing seeing the 1/2 > wave L in my antenna books. > > Art > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Art Snapper <a...@nk8x.net> wrote: > > > I have been researching the inverted L for 160, and have received much > > helpful information. - Thanks! > > > > Today I stumbled across a document regarding the 1/2 wave inverted L. > > > > Has anyone done a side-by-side comparison? > > > > 73 > > Art NK8X > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:15:54 -0400 > From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > Message-ID: <54e128aa.2020...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Many years ago when topbanders were looking for better efficiency and > something thart would radiate with limited space lots there was the "Z" > which was essentially a way of feeding a 1/2 wave sloper from a tapped > coil L/C circuit at the shack end by running the first 1/4 wave of wire > close to the ground (were it was claimed to do minimum radiation since > it was voltage rather than current fed) and then sloping it upward to a > tree or pole with the top portion doubled back horizontal to the ground > below. It has been many years since I heard of this antenna that was > supposed to minimize ground connection loss and provide some vertical > radiation (DX) component. Nor am I aware that anyone has model this > design as there were even some folded back version to save space. > > > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ > > I have modeled it and the results are predictable. About > > half your power goes into likely useless horizontally > > polarized radiation. If you instead make a top loaded > > ("T" type) vertical where the sum of the height and half > > the top wire is a half wave, then you get a "voltage fed" > > vertical that behaves pretty much like a half wave > > vertical. Since the drive impedance is high, you MIGHT > > get away with a much less extensive counterpoise. > > There is some controversy about this. > > > > Rick N6RK > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:53:38 -0800 > From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <rich...@karlquist.com> > To: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com>, > topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > Message-ID: <54e13182.4020...@karlquist.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 2/15/2015 3:15 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: > > Many years ago when topbanders were looking for better efficiency and > > something thart would radiate with limited space lots there was the "Z" > > which was essentially a way of feeding a 1/2 wave sloper from a tapped > > coil L/C circuit at the shack end by running the first 1/4 wave of wire > > close to the ground (were it was claimed to do minimum radiation since > > it was voltage rather than current fed) and then sloping it upward to a > > tree or pole with the top portion doubled back horizontal to the ground > > > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ > > This is a fallacy. Where you feed the antenna doesn't affect where > it radiates. You would get the same results if you fed it as a bent > dipole at the junction between the first 1/4 wave and the upward > sloping portion. Which is to say poor results. > > Rick N6RK > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:18:14 -0400 > From: Herbert Schoenbohm <he...@vitelcom.net> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > Message-ID: <54e13746.2070...@vitelcom.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Rick, I think it had more to do with getting something out of the shack > window with the tuner inside. I also think it had more to getting the > current maximum at the top of the pole. The OT's used to tell me they > just taped a #47 bulb and a small loop of wire at the top and fed some > power 20 watts or so at night and then trimmed the far end for maximum > brilliance to try and get the current maximum at the top of the slant > wire. With some vertical component and horizontal cancellation I can > not see how this was a *bad* antenna for beginners on TB. > > > Herb, KV4FZ > On 2/15/2015 7:53 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: > > On 2/15/2015 3:15 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: > >> Many years ago when topbanders were looking for better efficiency and > >> something thart would radiate with limited space lots there was the "Z" > >> which was essentially a way of feeding a 1/2 wave sloper from a tapped > >> coil L/C circuit at the shack end by running the first 1/4 wave of wire > >> close to the ground (were it was claimed to do minimum radiation since > >> it was voltage rather than current fed) and then sloping it upward to a > >> tree or pole with the top portion doubled back horizontal to the ground > > > >> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ > > > > This is a fallacy. Where you feed the antenna doesn't affect where > > it radiates. You would get the same results if you fed it as a bent > > dipole at the junction between the first 1/4 wave and the upward > > sloping portion. Which is to say poor results. > > > > Rick N6RK > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:54:33 -0800 > From: Garry Shapiro <ga...@ni6t.com> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > Message-ID: <54e13fc9.9000...@ni6t.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Milt, > > One factor influencing the results is that topband has not been a focus > for DXpeds for all that long. Time was that 2000 Q's was considered a > major achievement and that was not so long ago. Pretty much the same for > RTTY. Operating time used to be assigned grudgingly. The numbers have > gone up due to audience demand. > > Garry, NI6T > > On 2/14/2015 8:45 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote: > > With a bit of time on my hands, and using some information and links > > sent to me by persons responding to my post earlier today, I have > > compiled the following list of All Time Topband DXpedition leaders for > > total 160 Meter Qs. > > > > The following list of 7 DXpeditions are head and shoulders above the > > rest of the pack, so far as I have been able to discover in the records. > > > > Most other major DXpedtions list total Topband Qs in the 2,500 to > > 3,500 range. Very interesting. > > > > Enjoy, and if anyone has further information, please forward it to me. > > Thanks, and have a great, leisurely weekend now that you don't have to > > pursue K1N. > > > > 73 de Milt, N5IA > > > > =================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #1 > > > > 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less > > than 4,000 KM distant. > > > > CW SSB RTTY PSK Total > > 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653 > > =================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #2 > > > > K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less > > than 5,600 KM distant. > > > > SSB CW RTTY Total > > 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196 > > =================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #3 > > > > VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the > > southern hemisphere summer. > > There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter nights (operating periods on > > Topband). > > > > ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM; JA = > > 11,900+ KM; > > west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 8,100 KM; > > San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM; NYC, USA = 8,900 KM; > > and in EU -- Madrid = 14,200 KM; London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200 > > KM; > > Rome = 15,690 KM; Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM. > > > > CW SSB RTTY Total > > 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671 > > =================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #4 > > > > K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less > > than 5,600 KM distant. > > > > CW SSB RTTY Total > > 160 M 5399 0 0 5399 plus what is worked > > the last night, 15 Feb 15. > > ================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #5 > > > > T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean, > > 200 KM north of the Equator. > > > > ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA = > > 7,400+ KM; > > west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,600 KM; > > San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM; > > and in EU -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900 > > KM; > > Rome = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM. > > > > SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total > > 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984 > > ================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #6 > > > > HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA > > and most of Canada less > > than 7,000 KM distant. > > > > SSB CW RTTY Total > > 160 M 802 4138 0 4940 > > ================================================================================== > > > > > > > > #7 > > > > TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA > > and most of Canada less > > than 6,000 KM distant. > > > > SSB CW RTTY Total > > 160 M 423 3662 0 4085 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9114 - Release Date: 02/14/15 > > > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:57:12 -0800 > From: Garry Shapiro <ga...@ni6t.com> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > Message-ID: <54e14068.2060...@ni6t.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Jim, > > What do you mean by FT5ZM being "nowhere near the sea"? > > Garry > > On 2/14/2015 10:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On Sat,2/14/2015 8:45 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote: > >> With a bit of time on my hands, and using some information and links > >> sent to me by persons responding to my post earlier today, I have > >> compiled the following list of All Time Topband DXpedition leaders > >> for total 160 Meter Qs. > > > > This is one of those achievements were simple numbers don't tell the > > whole story. Considering their location, special mention ought to be > > made of FT5ZM (3,578 Qs, 789 of them to North America, halfway round > > the world and nowhere near the sea), of PT0S (3,027 Qs from four > > operators on some rocks in the South Atlantic), and of the several > > other two-man expeditions by George and Tomi for which statistics are > > not on ClubLog. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:17:11 -0800 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > Message-ID: <54e14517.5080...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On Sun,2/15/2015 4:57 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote: > > What do you mean by FT5ZM being "nowhere near the sea"? > > My error. Sorry. > > Jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 05:53:30 +0300 > From: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ <ra...@mail.ru> > To: ga...@ni6t.com > Cc: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > Message-ID: <1424055210.468050...@f210.i.mail.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Congratulations to everyone who now has a new country on 160m! > > Unfortunately for asian HAMs? from CQ- zones nr 19, 23,24 and 25? K1N > activity on 160m has become one of the most unfortunate. > > Zone 25 = only 22 QSOs > Zone 19 = 1 QSO (there is another QSO, which is held at 04:00UTC, it's either > operator error expedition, or is someone's bad joke) > Zones 23 and 24 = 0 QSOs. > Of the total number of contacts at 160m on 19,23,24,25 zones is less than > 0.48%. > > My friend said that we now have to live another 22 years longer and wait for > the next expedition to Navassa! Hi-hi-hi -:)) > > > 73! de Eugene RA0FF > http://www.qsl.net/ra0ff/ > > > ???????????, 15 ??????? 2015, 16:54 -08:00 ?? Garry Shapiro <ga...@ni6t.com>: > >Milt, > > > >One factor influencing the results is that topband has not been a focus > >for DXpeds for all that long. Time was that 2000 Q's was considered a > >major achievement and that was not so long ago. Pretty much the same for > >RTTY. Operating time used to be assigned grudgingly. The numbers have > >gone up due to audience demand. > > > >Garry, NI6T > > > >On 2/14/2015 8:45 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote: > >> With a bit of time on my hands, and using some information and links > >> sent to me by persons responding to my post earlier today, I have > >> compiled the following list of All Time Topband DXpedition leaders for > >> total 160 Meter Qs. > >> > >> The following list of 7 DXpeditions are head and shoulders above the > >> rest of the pack, so far as I have been able to discover in the records. > >> > >> Most other major DXpedtions list total Topband Qs in the 2,500 to > >> 3,500 range. Very interesting. > >> > >> Enjoy, and if anyone has further information, please forward it to me. > >> Thanks, and have a great, leisurely weekend now that you don't have to > >> pursue K1N. > >> > >> 73 de Milt, N5IA > >> > >> =================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #1 > >> > >> 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less > >> than 4,000 KM distant. > >> > >> CW SSB RTTY PSK Total > >> 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653 > >> =================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #2 > >> > >> K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less > >> than 5,600 KM distant. > >> > >> SSB CW RTTY Total > >> 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196 > >> =================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #3 > >> > >> VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the > >> southern hemisphere summer. > >> There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter nights (operating periods on > >> Topband). > >> > >> ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM; JA = > >> 11,900+ KM; > >> west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 8,100 KM; > >> San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM; NYC, USA = 8,900 KM; > >> and in EU -- Madrid = 14,200 KM; London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200 > >> KM; > >> Rome = 15,690 KM; Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM. > >> > >> CW SSB RTTY Total > >> 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671 > >> =================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #4 > >> > >> K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less > >> than 5,600 KM distant. > >> > >> CW SSB RTTY Total > >> 160 M 5399 0 0 5399 plus what is worked > >> the last night, 15 Feb 15. > >> ================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #5 > >> > >> T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean, > >> 200 KM north of the Equator. > >> > >> ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA = > >> 7,400+ KM; > >> west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,600 KM; > >> San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM; > >> and in EU -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900 > >> KM; > >> Rome = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM. > >> > >> SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total > >> 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984 > >> ================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #6 > >> > >> HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA > >> and most of Canada less > >> than 7,000 KM distant. > >> > >> SSB CW RTTY Total > >> 160 M 802 4138 0 4940 > >> ================================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> #7 > >> > >> TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA > >> and most of Canada less > >> than 6,000 KM distant. > >> > >> SSB CW RTTY Total > >> 160 M 423 3662 0 4085 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> No virus found in this message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9114 - Release Date: 02/14/15 > >> > >> _________________ > >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > >> > > > >_________________ > >Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:30:40 -0700 > From: "Milt -- N5IA" <n...@zia-connection.com> > To: "TopBand List" <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M > Message-ID: <4EEAEB3B51FD4AE8B5F5E14E75F9BA70@MiltVostro2010> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Good evening all. > > The K1N final numbers are in. > > I also received some further statistics from Bernd, DF3CB, which slightly > change the order of the standings. > > I received come comments about propagation differences. The following are, > IMHO, the relevant factors. > > DX is DX no matter what band, but in particular on 160 Meters the farther > you are from the majority of > the contacts, the more difficult the possibility of large amounts of QSOs. > Proximity to major ham population areas is the top contributor to the > leading Q counts. > > It does not matter, IMHO, if the DXpedition is 2-man, 25-man, or anywhere in > between, there is typically only one station and one operator at a time on > Topband. They do not do both modes simultaneously on Topband. In this > aspsect all DXpeditions are equal. > > Timing with the sunspot cycle is the next limiting factor. The reduction of > the size and intensity of the polar ovals with low sunspots greatly assists > the long, opposite side of the planet paths. > > Those operations that take place at or near the equator are always affected > by QRN. > > IMHO the operations at 5A7A, K5D, K1N, R1MVW, HK0NA, TS7C,and TX5K did an > extremely > good job and were able to take advantage of the proximity to major > population areas. They > had to have a good station and great operators, and had to be on the ground > long enough > to take make the large amount of Qs. > > But, and again IMHO, the operations at VP6DX, T32C, and ZL8X are OUTSTANDING > because > they had to overcome the big one; DISTANCE, for nearly 100% of their Qs. > > Now to separate those three just a bit. > > ZL8X did 4,206 Qs with a crew of 14 operators and 18 days of operation. > > T32C did 4,985 Qs with a crew of 41 operators and 32 days of operation. > > VP6DX did 6,671 Qs with a crew of 13 operators and 17 days of operation. > > In all cases subtract at a minimum two days from the operation total to > apply to the 160 M operations. > > Enjoy, and look for the upcoming web site by Bernd, DF3CB, with all the > details and > breakdowns of all the DXpeditions. > > 73 de Milt, N5IA > > =================================================================================== > > #1 > > 5A7A, Libya, near Tripoli, with the entire European continent less than > 4,000 KM distant. > > CW SSB RTTY PSK Total > 160 M 6344 928 283 98 7653 > =================================================================================== > > #2 > > K5D, Desecheo, Caribbean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less than > 5,600 KM distant. > > SSB CW RTTY Total > 160 M 1983 5213 0 7196 > =================================================================================== > > #3 > > VP6DX, Ducie Atoll, from the middle of the south Pacific in the southern > hemisphere summer. There was strong QRN and somewhat shorter > nights (operating periods on Topband). > > ZL = 5,400+ KM; VK = 8,000 to 11,700 KM; KH6 = 5,800+ KM; > JA = 11,900+ KM; west coast of South America = 5,000+ KM; > Rio de Janeiro = 8,100 KM; San Diego, USA = 6,400 KM; > NYC, USA = 8,900 KM; and in EU -- Madrid = 14,200 KM; > London = 14,400 KM; Berlin = 15,200 KM; Rome = 15,690 KM; > Moscow = 16,100 KM; Athens = 16,600 KM. > > CW SSB RTTY Total > 160 M 5097 1574 0 6671 > =================================================================================== > > #4 > > K1N, Navassa, Carribean, with the entire USA and most of Canada less than > 5,600 KM distant. > > CW SSB RTTY Total > 160 M 5399 0 0 5399 > ================================================================================== > > #5 > > R1MVW/MVC, Malyj Vysotskij, from the north Baltic Sea, where the most > distant part of > Europe, Gibraltar, is only 3,600 KM distant. > > CW SSB RTTY Total > 160 M ? ? ? 5082 > ============================================================================= > > #6 > > T32C, Kiritimati Island, from near the center of the Pacific Ocean, 200 KM > north of the Equator. > > ZL = 5,100+ KM; VK = 6,200 to 10,000 KM; KH6 = 1,900+ KM; JA = 7,400+ KM; > west coast of South America = 8,500+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,600 KM; > San Diego, USA = 5,400 KM; NYC, USA = 9,300 KM; > and in EU -- Madrid = 14,600 KM; London = 13,700 KM; Berlin = 13,900 KM; > Rome = 15,050 KM; Moscow = 13,460 KM; Athens = 15,580 KM. > > SSB CW PSK RTTY PSK63F Total > 160 M 917 3573 4 449 41 4984 > ================================================================================== > > #7 > > HK0NA, Malpelo, off SW coast of Central America, with the entire USA and > most of Canada less than 7,000 KM distant. > > SSB CW RTTY Total > 160 M 802 4138 0 4940 > ================================================================================== > > #8 > > TS7C, Kerkennah Island, off the west coast of Tunisia, with the entire > European > continent less than 4,000 KM distant. > > SSB CW RTTY Total > 160 M ? ? ? 4311 > =============================================================================== > > #9 > > ZL8X, Kermandec Islands, 1,000 KM north of New Zealand, north island. > > VK = 2,800 to 6,800 KM; KH6 = 5,900 KM; JA = 8,400+ KM; > west coast of South America = 9,000+ KM; Rio de Janeiro = 12,500 KM; > San Diego, USA = 9,400 KM; NYC, USA = 13,200 KM; > and in EU -- Madrid = 18,700 KM; London = 17,500 KM; Berlin = 17,300 KM; > Rome = 18,300 KM; Moscow = 16,000 KM; Athens = 17,800 KM. > > SSB CW RTTY Total > 160 M 423 3662 0 4206 > =============================================================================== > > #10 > > TX5K, Clipperton Island, off SW coast of Mexico, with the entire USA and > most of Canada less > than 6,000 KM distant. > > SSB CW RTTY Total > 160 M 423 3662 0 4085 > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9121 - Release Date: 02/15/15 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:42:34 -0700 > From: "Milt -- N5IA" <n...@zia-connection.com> > To: "Eugene Popov /RA0FF/" <ra...@mail.ru>, <ga...@ni6t.com> > Cc: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > Message-ID: <212ABF944BE147699A7AA8553C8D9398@MiltVostro2010> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Eugene, > > I sympathize with you. But location is everything; as we all know. > > What you really need is a most rare DX entity in YOUR backyard. > > Hmmm!!!!! There is one!!!! P5. > > When North Korea comes on the air on 160 M you and your buds will be some of > the first in the log. > > It will be the boys in New England, the southern half of South America and > the southern half of Africa > who will be lamenting the low percentage of Qs with their parts of the > world. > > Thanks for the Qs. Always a good signal here from your fine station. > > 73 de Milt, N5IA, and also operator of N7GP > ============================================================= > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:53 PM > To: ga...@ni6t.com > Cc: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5000q's on 160 > > Congratulations to everyone who now has a new country on 160m! > > Unfortunately for asian HAMs from CQ- zones nr 19, 23,24 and 25 K1N > activity on 160m has become one of the most unfortunate. > > Zone 25 = only 22 QSOs > Zone 19 = 1 QSO (there is another QSO, which is held at 04:00UTC, it's > either operator error expedition, or is someone's bad joke) > Zones 23 and 24 = 0 QSOs. > Of the total number of contacts at 160m on 19,23,24,25 zones is less than > 0.48%. > > My friend said that we now have to live another 22 years longer and wait for > the next expedition to Navassa! Hi-hi-hi -:)) > > > 73! de Eugene RA0FF > http://www.qsl.net/ra0ff/ > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9121 - Release Date: 02/15/15 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 07:40:54 +0000 > From: Rune ?ye <runee...@hotmail.com> > To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: HC1PF Luis on TB > Message-ID: <dub126-w35164de9deb96a1b6939c4c4...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All > > > > Luis HC1PF is rather active on TB these days, the last two > mornings his RST was 559 for two three ours then normally peaking 579 / 589 at > one point. Still not in the log her, however I heard he sent LA7 but I could > not > copy my full call and report. I wonder, is there any NA stations that copy > Luis > on TB?. He worked many EU stations this morning. > > > > 73 Rune LA7THA > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 04:04:07 -0500 > From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> > To: Rune ?ye <runee...@hotmail.com> > Cc: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Re: Topband: HC1PF Luis on TB > Message-ID: > <CANckpc3TjYGoNiXsEXmWSNXKwtadEstPN=jlwva+s1sdbjx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Rune, > > Yes, we are copying Luis in the US rather well. He has the usual RX > problems of listening to the US stations in their winter while he has > summer and the local QRN. He also has nearby BC stations in the high > end of the band. Tonight he had a US pileup on him. It was a very > quiet evening on 160 tonight, and although QSB would drop out the path > at times, at other times he was 589. Here are his RBN reports for the > evening, no lack of US spots: > > http://www.reversebeacon.net/dxsd1/dxsd1.php?f=0&c=hc1pf&t=dx > > He now has an L, up 18.5 m out 34.3 m over an FCP. He's been working > on RX antennas, but don't know where he is in that task. Don't believe > his property can support beverages. > > >From just listening to who he was working, his path to EU has seemed > better than path to US, or maybe he was hearing EU better. > > 73, Guy K2AV > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Rune ?ye <runee...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi All > > > > > > > > Luis HC1PF is rather active on TB these days, the last two > > mornings his RST was 559 for two three ours then normally peaking 579 / 589 > > at > > one point. Still not in the log her, however I heard he sent LA7 but I > > could not > > copy my full call and report. I wonder, is there any NA stations that copy > > Luis > > on TB?. He worked many EU stations this morning. > > > > > > > > 73 Rune LA7THA > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 05:23:44 -0500 > From: "Tom W8JI" <w...@w8ji.com> > To: <topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Re: Topband: What ever happened to the 160 meter "Z" antenna? > Message-ID: <7326EF59228247CBA4F8AE3436F3713E@MAIN> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > > Rick, I think it had more to do with getting something out of the shack > > window with the tuner inside. I also think it had more to getting the > > current maximum at the top of the pole. The OT's used to tell me they > > just taped a #47 bulb and a small loop of wire at the top and fed some > > power 20 watts or so at night and then trimmed the far end for maximum > > brilliance to try and get the current maximum at the top of the slant > > wire. With some vertical component and horizontal cancellation I can not > > see how this was a *bad* antenna for beginners on TB. > > That was an antenna popular in the early 1960's, I tried one myself back > then. > > It appeared everywhere as an improvement to a vertical or inverted L > antenna. It was ideally out 65 horizontally, up 65 vertically, and out 130 > horizontally. If the vertical section was lower height, the low horizontal > was extended. > > The idea was to get current at the top of the vertical section, and enough > length on a horizontal single wire feed to make it a 1/2 wave, but it was a > bad idea. Mine was way down in signal strength locally on groundwave over a > base loaded vertical. It improved greatly when turned into an inverted L > with current maximum at the base. > > As Rick says, it acted more like a bent dipole with one end 6 feet off the > ground for 70 feet or more. > > 73 Tom > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Topband mailing list > Topband@contesting.com > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Topband Digest, Vol 146, Issue 28 > **************************************** _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband