Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-06 Thread Carl
and higher than a kite most of the time. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Wayne Kline To: Carl ; JI Charles ; low bad reflector Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: RE: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Just my .02 Some call them Tomatoes some

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-06 Thread Wayne Kline
Hi Carl Yes it seems that we stumbles across the same Crew :) . No not really but the same experience. TheStrand what they called it ran from pole to pole or was used as down guy pole wires when the ENG. required it for the extra pole line capacity. Because I was

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-05 Thread Tom W8JI
Preform comes from the name of a major grip manufacturer, not from tower apes. http://www.preformed.com/ Dead end is the termination style of grip. http://www.preformed.com/index.php?option=com_phocadownloadview=categoryid=15Itemid=145 The normal Guy Grip dead end is typically used on any

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff - please be safe

2014-09-05 Thread Carl
BE SAFE 73, Tim K3LR -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:44 PM To: donov...@starpower.net Cc: Carl; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Have been for the last 7 years

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-05 Thread Carl
Preform comes from the name of a major grip manufacturer, not from tower apes. http://www.preformed.com/ ** Which has never been denied by anyone in this discussion. OTOH linemen and other strand installers use it as a general description thus my tower ape terminology. Dead end is the

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-05 Thread Wayne Kline
' with two 502's attached directly to the tower leg and three way equalizer plate. MY .02 From: k...@jeremy.mv.com To: w...@w8ji.com; topband@contesting.com Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:46:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Preform comes from the name of a major grip

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-05 Thread Tom W8JI
: RE: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Just my .02 Some call them Tomatoes some call them Tomottos but even those fruits come in different size and texture . When I built my station @ this QTH 4 guyed towers with broken up guys 502 insulators and a PRE

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-05 Thread Wayne Kline
The real danger is in doing things seriously wrong, like putting the loop over something with inadequate radius. I've seen some pretty poor installations. Some installers slip the loop over the tower leg, or worse yet, over the leg plus a brace rod end. The rod puts a real sharp bump

Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Carl
Ive been spending a lot of time trimming and removing trees around my shorty 60' tower which was the first one up when I moved here in 89. It is amazing how fast they seemed to overtake my space in just 25 years!! Since it is also time to replace the decidedly rusty 3/16 cable Ive decided to

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Bill Wichers
If you only need a few like this, try calling some of the utility contractors in your area. They will always have the dead ends and the guys that also do the power work will also have the insulators. They will probably be able to sell you a few without too much trouble. BTW, the utility guys

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread donovanf
Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff If you only need a few like this, try calling some of the utility contractors in your area. They will always have the dead ends and the guys that also do the power work will also have the insulators

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Carl
; topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Tower guys should use Big Grips, not the performs used by electric utilities. You can purchase Big Grips from Texas Towers and many other suppliers 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Bill Wichers
strength of the cable they are designed for. -Bill -Original Message- From: donov...@starpower.net [mailto:donov...@starpower.net] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:40 PM To: Bill Wichers Cc: Carl; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Tower guys should

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Billy Cox
be worth confirming the above. Hope this helps! 73 de Billy, AA4NU - Original Message - From: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net To: donov...@starpower.net Cc: Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com, topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:37:30 PM Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread donovanf
...@starpower.net Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:58:22 PM Subject: RE: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Why is that, Frank? My understanding is that the preforms are stronger than the guy wire so I'm curious why feel that Big Grips are necessary? Thanks. 73, Greg-N4CC -Original Message

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread donovanf
7:14:00 PM Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Not according to the folks that invented them Frank. The Big Grip is a Guy Grip for serious towers. http://www.preformed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_phocadownload%26view%3Dcategory%26download%3D44:plp-commcatsec20-2012%26id%3D15:strand

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Bill Wichers
...@windstream.net To: donov...@starpower.net Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:58:22 PM Subject: RE: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Why is that, Frank? My understanding is that the preforms are stronger than the guy wire so I'm curious why feel that Big Grips are necessary? Thanks. 73, Greg-N4CC

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread donovanf
...@waveform.net Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:14:00 PM Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Not according to the folks that invented them Frank. The Big Grip is a Guy Grip for serious towers. http://www.preformed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_phocadownload%26view

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Cecil
: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:14:00 PM Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Not according to the folks that invented them Frank. The Big Grip is a Guy Grip for serious towers. http://www.preformed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_phocadownload%26view

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

2014-09-04 Thread Cecil
- Original Message - From: Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com To: donov...@starpower.net, Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:14:00 PM Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Not according to the folks that invented them Frank

Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff - please be safe

2014-09-04 Thread Tim Duffy
- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:44 PM To: donov...@starpower.net Cc: Carl; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff Have been for the last 7 years...no issues at all. The tower products are just