Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Charlie Cunningham
PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials I posted this on TowerTalk and I got a couple of responses as to why the ends of ground radials should not be grounded. Isn't it dependent on whether you want the radials resonant or not? And if you do want them

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Bill Wichers
: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials I posted this on TowerTalk and I got a couple of responses as to why the ends of ground radials should not be grounded. Isn't it dependent on whether you want the radials resonant or not? And if you do want them resonant, on the length of the radial

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Doug Renwick
: Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials OTOH connecting all the ends together with a wire that can handle the total current would help balance the field..Yes or no? Carl KM1H --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I am guessing that Bob is talking about insulated wire on the ground. But some specifics from him would be useful. Frequently mentioned specific radial implementations, in no specific order: 1) Raised radials 2) Radials of insulated wire laying on ground or embedded in lawns, etc. 3) Bare wire

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Charlie Cunningham
may be good but it ain't that good! :) 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:32 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials If I lay

Topband: grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Bob Eldridge
but if it was done with a ground rod that's not really much of a ground for rf. It isn't there to provide a ground. It is there to intercept return rf, which flows not far below the surface. So a ground spike is a more appropriate term. Ground rods are good for safety purposes. Yes, I am

Re: Topband: grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Charlie Cunningham
is possible! FWIW 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Eldridge Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:53 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: grounding the ends of radials but if it was done with a ground rod that's

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Fry
Elevated radial wires perform much differently than buried radial wires. Elevated, horizontal radial wires having self-resonant 1/4 wavelength used as all, or part of an elevated counterpoise for a monopole, tee, or inverted L should NOT have a low-Z (direct) path to the earth at the operating

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Tom W8JI
I generally agree with you, Bob - especially with regard to not grounding the far ends of 1/4 wave radials!! After all what we are trying to establish is a low-impedance image plane for the vertical radiator to be fed against! A 1/4 wave wire, grounded at the far end would have a high

Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials

2014-01-25 Thread Charlie Cunningham
arrays! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:47 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials I generally agree with you, Bob - especially