Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The riveting experience I draw on is one particular IOTA contest where our group was operating as N4A on Core Banks, NC. The bands were full of signals in the early afternoon, including stuff on 40 from Europe really before the band was quite open. I was walking around with a battery Elecraft

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Grant Saviers
At TX5D, Raivavae, Australs FP, I could real time A/B a vertical at the high tide line on 15m vs one 100' feet back and got 1 to 2 S units better for the beach one on the USA path about 7000km. Grant KZ1W On 8/11/2014 1:16 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: The riveting experience I draw on is one

Topband: YB0ARA/9 Card in Hand

2014-08-11 Thread W8AV--- via Topband
Esteemed Reflectees: I received my YB0ARA card in the mail this afternoon from Art, N2AU. WOOHOO!!! I am extremely grateful to him for managing this since he is pretty much incapacitated these days. I know there are some of you still looking to confirm this one but PLEASE be patient

Topband: Ferrites and verticals

2014-08-11 Thread jcjacob...@q.com
How do, The thread on ferrites has been most interesting, but it leaves a question or two unanswered. Please be kind to an old timer. The scenario: Butternut HF6V (or any hf vertical) ground mounted w/32 radials at 32 feet, buried just beneath the surface. The questions: Is a choke

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Charlie
That's really impressive! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Grant Saviers Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:26 AM To: Guy Olinger K2AV; TopBand List Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Modeling the proverbial vertical

Re: Topband: Ferrites and verticals

2014-08-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/11/2014 12:34 PM, jcjacob...@q.com wrote: Is a choke needed on the feed line The function of a common mode choke at that point is to prevent the coax from becoming a radial. Your radial system, whatever it is, also does that, to the extent that it's a good radial system. 32 radials 32

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Mike Coreen Smith VE9AA
I can only provide anecdotal evidence. In July 1997 we did CY9AA and our 160m antenna turned out to be a 130' wire, suspended by a large helium/mylar balloon. We mounted the base in the rocks right at the waters edge on the North/Northeast-ish edge of the smaller north Island of St. Paul. Condx

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Yuri Blanarovich
One pony needs to get into one drag radio car and drive around theĀ ocean front, over the bridges, back over the land and watch the S-meterĀ and listen to the bands. Observant would see 10 - 20 dB difference in signal levels in lousy mobile, especially on low angle propagation. Examples:

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Carl
There have been reports of verticals and salt water almost as long as there has been radio. It helps horizontal antennas also. Ive operated for enough years aboard USN ships to know it is often a band opener and have to laugh at a couple of petty comments. The difference between operating

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Hardy Landskov
Yuri, Thanks for your input. Tom asks, where are the other stations? It is a one pony race. Well I am sure if we look at the CQ logs for that year we will see that there were other Carib stations on but we did not hear them out here--that is my point. I can't compare a set of verticals on the

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread W9UCW--- via Topband
I can only offer another anecdotal account to the subject. It started 44 years ago when I, Steve, K9CQV (K0SX), Ken, W0KUS, and Julius, K8HKB set up shop on San Andres Island and signed our calls portable HK0 for a week. With the help of Victor, HK0AI we had a location at the water's edge.