Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Juan EA5RS
To have an idea of what kind of spread of SNRs one can expect from skimmer reports, I performed a test this morning I recorded two overlapping CQ messages with two different callsigns, one had the sidetone on 500 Hz (EA5RS) and the other at 900 Hz (EA5BY), and applied it to the MIC input of my

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Mike Waters
When I last investigated, all the skimmers and Web SDRs that were outside of North America all had terrible receive antennas for copying DX signals on 160. (And who knows how many of them are in quiet locations?) When I say terrible, I mean small magnetic loops, very short whips, low dipoles, a

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Peter Voelpel
Sure it is. Most skimmers are setup to receive all directions on more then one band. Anyway, Skimmers only show S/N. 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Waters Sent: Dienstag, 19. August 2014 11:34 To: topband Subject: Re:

Re: Topband: A35LT

2014-08-19 Thread KE1F Lou
So far no show. Lou KE1F On 8/18/2014 3:30 PM, Brian Sarkisian wrote: A35LT was on 160 during the North American morning grey line. We plan on being on the air again the next North American morning grey line. 73 de Brian, KG8CO A35CO _ Topband

Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-19 Thread Mark Connelly via Topband
I'll just stick in a few responses to others' comments about what I wrote on the 'beach' thread and then I'll get out of the way. It is tricky to use receiving tests to gauge the effectiveness of proposed transmitting antennas for two reasons. You are probably listening on receiving type

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Dan Edward Dba East edwards
the gw8izr skimmer seems pretty good to me...dr1a also...both, better than average, IMHO  a belgian one also ( can't remember the call..) couple in JA also.. 73, w5xz, dan On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:33 AM, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote: When I last investigated, all the

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
I quickly noticed that some skimmers seem to have more effective antenna systems than others. More than S/N, I look at kinda the breadth and depth of where I'm spotted. On 160M, GW8IZR and DL1A are where I'm first spotted. If I'm getting spotted more broadly or deeply than that, then I know

Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Jim N7US
From the reflector of the Northern IL DX Association. 73, Jim N7US From: ni...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ni...@yahoogroups.com] Sent: August 19, 2014 07:49 To: ni...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [NIDXA] New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL Now that is an antenna!

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Peter Voelpel
Actually 4x DB42 are stacked and Kan applied for a 160m sideband approval 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim N7US Sent: Dienstag, 19. August 2014 18:22 To: 'Topband Reflector'; CADXA Reflector Subject: Topband: New 3 el 160m

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Doug Renwick
When you have money, it's amazing what can be done. I thought the consensus now is yagi antennas on 160 don't perform well (i.e. OH8X) when compared to vertical arrays. Doug Think of all the ways you can hurt yourself laughing. -Original Message- From the reflector of the Northern IL

Topband: WTB: Hi-Z 4-8PRO

2014-08-19 Thread Gary Smith
I'm thinking of getting the 8 element version to replace my existing Hi-Z triangular array. Anyone have a Hi-Z 4-8PRO system they want to let go of? Please reply direct. 73, Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
The web site talks about a CL-75 Yagi, which operates as a dipole on 160 meters, and has 5 elements on 80. Is there also some different antenna that is actually 3 elements on 160 meters? My Japanese is a little rusty :-) Rick N6RK On 8/19/2014 9:22 AM, Jim N7US wrote: From the reflector of

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Peter Voelpel
His CL75 CX-M 5-element 80m yagi is on the other tower and still in use. The new 160m antenna was built on order by Create. 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richard (Rick) Karlquist Sent: Dienstag, 19. August 2014 19:29 To:

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,8/19/2014 10:03 AM, Doug Renwick wrote: I thought the consensus now is yagi antennas on 160 don't perform well (i.e. OH8X) when compared to vertical arrays. That is STRONGLY dependent on the height of the Yagi and soil conductivity around the vertical antenna. A horizontal antenna

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Merv Schweigert
I had the opportunity to work K9DX many times when he was using this array, he was one of the only stations who would hear me call an hour before my sunset, and when he switched the array from EU to KH6 it was nothing but amazing. To be honest I have never heard another ham array do as well,

Re: Topband: New 3 el 160m yagi at 7J4AAL

2014-08-19 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
I guess we’ll hear this 160 season from 7J4AAL. Living mid-path USA-JA affords KL7’s the opportunity to receive both as W’s and others turn their attention to JA. Why not give it a try if one has the motivation, real estate, and resources? And about which antenna is better? His 160 beam on a

Topband: Switching Pennants

2014-08-19 Thread DGB
I am wanting a simple way of switching 3 or 4 pennants. Anyone done this? Quote From K6SEE ... All four Pennants would be installed with their points all adjacent to each other. Only one feedline would be necessary and only one transformer would be necessary, with the high impedance winding

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Do we really care that skimmers aren't hooked up to antennas with pattern and gain? One of the things in using VOACAP is knowing the pattern of the RX antenna as well as TX. Omni pattern at RX removes RX antenna bias. Why shouldn't we specifically use omni on RX, so that any enhancement is from

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Yuri Blanarovich
Depends what are you expecting from Skimmer-RX-ANT setup. If you want skimmer to find DX before the pack and looking for low angle signals, then setup better use antenna with proper low angle vertical pattern. Also getting true report when evaluating beach antennas with low vertical angle,

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Tom W8JI
Do we really care that skimmers aren't hooked up to antennas with pattern and gain? One of the things in using VOACAP is knowing the pattern of the RX antenna as well as TX. Omni pattern at RX removes RX antenna bias. Why shouldn't we specifically use omni on RX, so that any enhancement is from

Re: Topband: Switching Pennants

2014-08-19 Thread Tom W8JI
I would not switch high impedance lines without very special precautions. I really do not think it is worth the small parts savings. - Original Message - From: DGB ns9i2...@bayland.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Topband: Switching

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: Why would it matter? The receiving antenna does not matter, provided it responds to the wave angle at the receive site. It doesn't matter if it is loop, a 10 foot vertical, or a 200 foot vertical so long as the antenna does not

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Carl
Do we really care that skimmers aren't hooked up to antennas with pattern and gain? One of the things in using VOACAP is knowing the pattern of the RX antenna as well as TX. Omni pattern at RX removes RX antenna bias. Why shouldn't we specifically use omni on RX, so that any enhancement is

Re: Topband: Skimmer calibration

2014-08-19 Thread Tom W8JI
BC antennas have the elaborate radial system in order to get that groundwave while the typical on ground ham vertical loses a lot of the 0-10 degree (or more) radiation. Go to the beach to get it back.or go with elevated radials. That just isn't factual at all. Radials under the