Topband: BevFlex-4 Beverage antenna?
Does anybody know if what was the Pixel Technologies BevPro-1 Beverage Antenna System, which I understand is now the InLogisInc BevFlex-4 Beverage antenna, is still in production? I can't see any reference to it on the InLogisInc.com web site I've emailed InLogisInc but haven't received a reply. Many thanks Tracey G5VU _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
On Wed,2/18/2015 9:44 AM, Mike wrote: what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 You could upgrade to Extra. 73, Jim K9YC _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and ill state it any ways .. that i couldn't advance my call to extra in 2days ... I probably got my self banned from dxwatch.com for making requests for some one to ask k1n to go to general . were there 2ops on one band ? one working the Tx radio and another in the general portion ?, it was not mentioned on their web page. I hope ANTO is going to be adhered to ... it sounded like a good idea to me ... I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. I never thought of trying to get ahold of the chopper pilot to pass a message that was a good idea. PS ... i can't use a tuner i don't have -- ref to 60M (mfj-1798 antenna) Im not a DX chaser .. i'm the normal once in a while weekend guy that has a hobby that the XYL tolerates. On 02/18/2015 08:56 AM, Larry Burke wrote: With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
On 2/18/2015 4:56 PM, Larry Burke wrote: Hi Larry, We now live in an entitlement minded society. All are suppose to have equal access to everything, regardless of personal preparation. Just because you have an extra class license, bigger antennas, and more operating savvy shouldn't give you any advantage over the guy who does not have these things! :-) Dave, W5UN With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Mike, no one is jumping all over you. As has already been pointed out by someone else, one thing that is in your control is your license class. This expedition was announced several months ago, not two days before it started. If you choose not to upgrade you will come away from future expeditions feeling the same way. There's a reason they call it incentive licensing. As for 60m, the choice to have -- or not have -- an antenna or tuner is, again, within your control. They were on 60m three evenings in a row. I know several people who put up a 60m antenna just for this. Not a lot of wire involved if you really wanted to work them. - Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:44 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and ill state it any ways .. that i couldn't advance my call to extra in 2days ... I probably got my self banned from dxwatch.com for making requests for some one to ask k1n to go to general . were there 2ops on one band ? one working the Tx radio and another in the general portion ?, it was not mentioned on their web page. I hope ANTO is going to be adhered to ... it sounded like a good idea to me ... I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. I never thought of trying to get ahold of the chopper pilot to pass a message that was a good idea. PS ... i can't use a tuner i don't have -- ref to 60M (mfj-1798 antenna) Im not a DX chaser .. i'm the normal once in a while weekend guy that has a hobby that the XYL tolerates. On 02/18/2015 08:56 AM, Larry Burke wrote: With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
On the 13th they were on 3725 and were switching between listening up 10-15 and 3815+/- around 1100Z but you had to listen carefully to know which of those they were doing. They would take some 10-15 up and then take some around 3815 and then repeat the sequence. 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:44 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and ill state it any ways .. that i couldn't advance my call to extra in 2days ... I probably got my self banned from dxwatch.com for making requests for some one to ask k1n to go to general . were there 2ops on one band ? one working the Tx radio and another in the general portion ?, it was not mentioned on their web page. I hope ANTO is going to be adhered to ... it sounded like a good idea to me ... I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. I never thought of trying to get ahold of the chopper pilot to pass a message that was a good idea. PS ... i can't use a tuner i don't have -- ref to 60M (mfj-1798 antenna) Im not a DX chaser .. i'm the normal once in a while weekend guy that has a hobby that the XYL tolerates. On 02/18/2015 08:56 AM, Larry Burke wrote: With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Extra Class I am sure that my wife could get her General and Extra class license by studying for one weekend or less, if she wanted to. When I got my Extra in 1968. There were no privileges. The test was send and receive code at 20WPM and the written test had many diagrams to draw. Not quite the same today. 73 de Price W0RI On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:56 PM, Larry lkn...@nc.rr.com wrote: On the 13th they were on 3725 and were switching between listening up 10-15 and 3815+/- around 1100Z but you had to listen carefully to know which of those they were doing. They would take some 10-15 up and then take some around 3815 and then repeat the sequence. 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:44 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and ill state it any ways .. that i couldn't advance my call to extra in 2days ... I probably got my self banned from dxwatch.com for making requests for some one to ask k1n to go to general . were there 2ops on one band ? one working the Tx radio and another in the general portion ?, it was not mentioned on their web page. I hope ANTO is going to be adhered to ... it sounded like a good idea to me ... I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. I never thought of trying to get ahold of the chopper pilot to pass a message that was a good idea. PS ... i can't use a tuner i don't have -- ref to 60M (mfj-1798 antenna) Im not a DX chaser .. i'm the normal once in a while weekend guy that has a hobby that the XYL tolerates. On 02/18/2015 08:56 AM, Larry Burke wrote: With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: BevFlex-4 Beverage Antenna
Tracey Pixel Technologies, now known as InLogisticInc, has exited the amateur radio antenna business. The creator of the BevFlex-4 is Geoff W8GNM. Geoff and his partner Ned WC4X, are currently seeking an alternate distribution channel for the BevFlex-4 antenna system. It is a really great product that offers multiple installation configurations including some that are not Beverage designs. Geoff is a Top Band DX'er, but also is a world class RF engineer with more than 50 years in the broadcast transmission equipment engineering field. I have had the privilege of working with Geoff for the past 25 years including working on the development of several transportable medium wave antenna systems. I would suggest that you drop Geoff an e-mail and ask him to update you on the progress towards bringing his product back to the market. 73 Jay K8CJY _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
On 2/18/2015 2:56 PM, Larry wrote: I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. This is speculation and depends entirely on who is in charge at the Interior Department-FWL etc. It could happen a lot sooner and depends on how the request is crafted such as a combined scientific study with radio support as happened in 1969 with a ecological study from the University of Miami. A study of the rat population may sound silly to some but unusual things like this can take precedence at Interior in getting the application fast tracked. Additionally, as administrations change, as is certain in 2016, so could established policies. Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
As I recall, I drove to Tucson (120 miles one way) and took the 20 WPM Extra Class test on a Saturday in 1991. A month later (spent studying for the written test) I went back to the same place to take the written test. Fortunately, I passed both. The 20 WPM test was, of course, more difficult than the 13 WPM General Class test that I took at the FCC office in Norfolk, VA; in 1955.but the written test for the Extra Class was, for me, easier that the written testfor the General Class test taken in 1955. On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:24 PM, HAROLD SMITH JR w0ri...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Extra Class I am sure that my wife could get her General and Extra class license by studying for one weekend or less, if she wanted to. When I got my Extra in 1968. There were no privileges. The test was send and receive code at 20WPM and the written test had many diagrams to draw. Not quite the same today. 73 de Price W0RI On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:56 PM, Larry lkn...@nc.rr.com wrote: On the 13th they were on 3725 and were switching between listening up 10-15 and 3815+/- around 1100Z but you had to listen carefully to know which of those they were doing. They would take some 10-15 up and then take some around 3815 and then repeat the sequence. 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:44 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and ill state it any ways .. that i couldn't advance my call to extra in 2days ... I probably got my self banned from dxwatch.com for making requests for some one to ask k1n to go to general . were there 2ops on one band ? one working the Tx radio and another in the general portion ?, it was not mentioned on their web page. I hope ANTO is going to be adhered to ... it sounded like a good idea to me ... I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. I never thought of trying to get ahold of the chopper pilot to pass a message that was a good idea. PS ... i can't use a tuner i don't have -- ref to 60M (mfj-1798 antenna) Im not a DX chaser .. i'm the normal once in a while weekend guy that has a hobby that the XYL tolerates. On 02/18/2015 08:56 AM, Larry Burke wrote: With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Interesting how things can jog a memory... My dad wanted me to be the youngest ham back in 1957 and he pushed me to learn all the required circuits which I might have been able to do all considering how quickly young kids absorb information. The spoiler for me was the code more than the formulae. I remember having difficulty as I'd learned to think dit dah instead of hear the character. Thus ended my quest to get the license till 1979 I quickly tired of the BS on CB, met up with a ham at my college, passed the Novice at the hands of my Elmer N1AMC (SK) at FARA, the local club in Fairfield, CT. Another year later after three trips to the FCC in NYC I had the extra. Funny, the CW was so much easier later in life but the formulas were much harder to remember. Interesting how things turn. 73, Gary KA1J As I recall, I drove to Tucson (120 miles one way) and took the 20 WPM Extra Class test on a Saturday in 1991. A month later (spent studying for the written test) I went back to the same place to take the written test. Fortunately, I passed both. The 20 WPM test was, of course, more difficult than the 13 WPM General Class test that I took at the FCC office in Norfolk, VA; in 1955.but the written test for the Extra Class was, for me, easier that the written testfor the General Class test taken in 1955. On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:24 PM, HAROLD SMITH JR w0ri...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Extra Class I am sure that my wife could get her General and Extra class license by studying for one weekend or less, if she wanted to. When I got my Extra in 1968. There were no privileges. The test was send and receive code at 20WPM and the written test had many diagrams to draw. Not quite the same today. 73 de Price W0RI On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:56 PM, Larry lkn...@nc.rr.com wrote: On the 13th they were on 3725 and were switching between listening up 10-15 and 3815+/- around 1100Z but you had to listen carefully to know which of those they were doing. They would take some 10-15 up and then take some around 3815 and then repeat the sequence. 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From: Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:44 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and ill state it any ways .. that i couldn't advance my call to extra in 2days ... I probably got my self banned from dxwatch.com for making requests for some one to ask k1n to go to general . were there 2ops on one band ? one working the Tx radio and another in the general portion ?, it was not mentioned on their web page. I hope ANTO is going to be adhered to ... it sounded like a good idea to me ... I guess i'll upgrade my call ... it is disappointing that location will not be operating again for more than 10+years. I never thought of trying to get ahold of the chopper pilot to pass a message that was a good idea. PS ... i can't use a tuner i don't have -- ref to 60M (mfj-1798 antenna) Im not a DX chaser .. i'm the normal once in a while weekend guy that has a hobby that the XYL tolerates. On 02/18/2015 08:56 AM, Larry Burke wrote: With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
note to all stateside K1N detractors Here are some things that will hopefully be in the DX'ING FOR DUMMIES BOOK 1. K1N is over. I am not convinced that any group anywhere did it better. that applies to all bands more specifically 160 meters. 2. NEWS FLASH! There will be other dx peditions in the future. Only 2 days notice??? We Had several months notice of the proposed K1N operation. If you are not subscribed to the daily dx, the weekly dx, the NJDXA bulletin, the ARRL DX Bulletin,the KB8NW DX bulletin some of which are free, you should look into it. Engraved notices were not sent out and it is your own fault for not having enough notice. 3. Missing K1n which was basically in your back yard should be part of your lessons learned after action report. If your station could not make a K1N contact, it was either an operator malfunction or your station needs some work. 4. If you do not have an extra class license, upgrade it or stop complaining about it. No code licenses have been here for years. CW is no longer a barrier to upgading your license. There are 11 year old kids with extra class licenses. Take your radio clubs next license upgrade class. If I were you I would Sign up for that class TODAY. Think of it another way. If you can operate CW, that gives you 9 more band opportunities where you can work them. why limit yourself needlessly. Bonus, even more band opportunities are available if you radio does RTTY. 5. No antenna for 160 or 60 meters? Start building your antenna TODAY. 6. No match box to load your antenna up on other bands? Buy or build one TODAY. 7. If your xyl is nagging you about Saturdays spent listening to the dx bands? Send her out to a spa for the day you want to devote to dxing. You might be surprised to find her asking you if you have any other days you would like to devote to dx-ing. In some circles this is called a win-win situation. 8.If your radio does not do 20 kc splits, TODAY would be a good day to upgrade your radio, buy or build a VFO Or live dangerously and read the manual for the radio you have now. 9 Be there !! You can be right at your radio and still miss announcements of where the dx is listening. If you are out of the room listening on a speaker 15 feet away it is easy to miss the DX station announcing he has shifted from listening 5 kcs up to listening 5 kcs down. Listening from across the room almost assures that you will miss announcements of this type, especially in a heavy DQRM situation such as EU only, NA only, ATNO, QRX-5 fueling generator etc. 10. Requesting or suggesting the dx station should go to another band, general sub bands or other requests via DX-Watch or sending a thank you on the packet cluster? Please know that the individual operators on most dx-peditions are not watching the dx cluster nor do they have dx watch on their cell phone even if they had enough signal to do so. Further, most of the american dx ops do not know all of the sub bands by memory and for sure, the dx ops from other countries do not know and could not care less about the general sub bands. 11. Just because a web site mentions or does not mention a band, or sub band or a band they plan to concentrate on does not mean they will or will not cover it. Radios and antennas fail or may have to be shared between several bands. If you read the pre dx-pedition freq plan for K1N. Their initial plan was to work 10M SSB and not do any 10 CW. Even so, I noted a significant amount of Q's were made on 10 cw. Again, you have to BE THERE. You snooze? YOU LOSE !!! 12. Most importantly of all, If you did not CONTRIBUTE to a specific DX-pedition, I really think you should refrain from complaining about it. A list of donors can often be found on the dx-pedition web site by clicking on the donor button. 13. If you are a casual weekend dx'er with a casual station, you should not be surprised or disappointed when you get CASUAL RESULTS. After reading this if you are still looking for someone to blame when you miss the next dx-pedition, take A long look in the mirror. 73 Chet N4FX -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:44 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Larry .. don't jump all over me what exatcly was in my control of k1n ? --- sure i could risk a fine by calling on 3775 I listened almost 10hrs straight (my wife not exactly happy - on saturday ), while cleaning my radio room up ( garage) and via remote in the living room... i didn't ever hear a notification that he was listening ... up at 3800+ ... plenty of notices of 70Khz up. and frankly do 100% of the hams have radios that are capable of splits that wide i see why heathkit twins were popular !!! *I'm asking what did i miss* besides not having a extra call its obious -- and
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . On 02/18/2015 08:02 AM, James Rodenkirch wrote: Not all that often, initiallyon 80 they stayed down in the extra segment for several days so I e-mailed the NA pilot and requested he pass on them that there are a lot of general class hams needing to work them so they need to get up near that portion of the band and work up. His reply -- I'll pass that on, Jim, that's a reasonable request --- very telling, 'eh? An aside note: I worked them with QRP power two morning after the pilot sent that reply. 72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:47:12 -0800 From: patriot...@msn.com To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M I have a question .. not top band related ... almost but how often did k1n venture into the general portion of the band on 75m, even on 40m I couldn't even make a contact on 20M 0UTC and next 2hrs was best according to K6TU propagation corse it would of helped if i had known about them sooner maybe ... i learned of the group thursday evening .. On 02/17/2015 07:45 PM, jon jones wrote: George: Thanks for the note. All the K1N ops did an outstanding job ! That is an excellent tip re. getting on after European sunrise and before JA sunset for DXpeditions on the low bands. I got up a number of nights ~ 2 am - 4 am CST to try for K1N. I was successful on 40 and 80 meters with K1N during this time slot. - Jon Jon, I was one of the 160 m operators. NA callers were thick during the evening hours when they were competing with EU, making for some difficult pile-ups, but after midnight (and EU sunrise), often there were very few NA callers. George AA7JV _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
I have a question .. not top band related ... almost but how often did k1n venture into the general portion of the band on 75m, even on 40m I couldn't even make a contact on 20M 0UTC and next 2hrs was best according to K6TU propagation corse it would of helped if i had known about them sooner maybe ... i learned of the group thursday evening .. On 02/17/2015 07:45 PM, jon jones wrote: George: Thanks for the note. All the K1N ops did an outstanding job ! That is an excellent tip re. getting on after European sunrise and before JA sunset for DXpeditions on the low bands. I got up a number of nights ~ 2 am - 4 am CST to try for K1N. I was successful on 40 and 80 meters with K1N during this time slot. - Jon Jon, I was one of the 160 m operators. NA callers were thick during the evening hours when they were competing with EU, making for some difficult pile-ups, but after midnight (and EU sunrise), often there were very few NA callers. George AA7JV _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- Mike KC7NOA _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
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I worked them on 160 in just a few calls with my 80m INV V and 500 watts on CW. Timing and luck are everything. It was super early just after our sunset. Yes I was shocked. For being the #1 needed country they were very easy to work for the USA. Mike W0MU On 2/18/2015 12:03 PM, Dave Blaschke, w5un wrote: On 2/18/2015 4:56 PM, Larry Burke wrote: Hi Larry, We now live in an entitlement minded society. All are suppose to have equal access to everything, regardless of personal preparation. Just because you have an extra class license, bigger antennas, and more operating savvy shouldn't give you any advantage over the guy who does not have these things! :-) Dave, W5UN With all due respect, Mike, these things are within your control and the DXpedition should not be held responsible for you not being able to work them. You'll find DXing way more fun when you upgrade (although K1N DID look for Generals on some bands). With regards to 60m, many operators there find a way to load their existing 80/160m antennas. At least one guy who worked them on that band uses what he calls a Bird Feeder -- which is in no way resonant on 60m. 73, Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:12 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M im sure i could of too ... i heard them for hours on 80M (3705 +70Khz) some times even 20 over S9 but never ventured above 3800 cept once some one got them to go to 60M ... and of corse i didn't have an antenna resonant for 60M . _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
