Topband: Modeling a BOG

2015-02-21 Thread James Wolf
I am trying to model a BOG (Beverage On or in the Ground). I have access to NEC4 and I am using the 4NEC2 interface. As soon as I drop the antenna below ground level, approx. 2 ft. without errors, I lose all indication of directivity except for a few dB. I have tried different lengths from

Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG

2015-02-21 Thread James Wolf
Mike, The reason the beverage wire in the model is 2 ft. below the surface is to have it away from the ground somewhat and have a nice segment length from the wire to ground on each end. The model shows only about 2 dB difference in gain and no pattern difference between the wire 1” below

Re: Topband: RX cables in woods

2015-02-21 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,2/21/2015 4:34 PM, Greg Zenger wrote: Id love to hear any suggestions or insight on how to route 1000' of cable through the woods. Maybe I've just been lucky, but the long runs of plain vanilla Commscope coax laying on the ground in my woods from my Beverages are still fine after 7

Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG

2015-02-21 Thread James Wolf
Here is a PDF that has the plots and the NEC Model. http://www.wolfrfsystems.com/BOG.pdf Jim – KR9U From: Mike Waters [mailto:mikew...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:34 PM To: jbw...@comcast.net Cc: topband Subject: Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG Can you upload your

Topband: Spot ti9/3z9dx 1844 cw up 1 to 2

2015-02-21 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Worked fairly easily. -- Mike W0MU _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: RX cables in woods

2015-02-21 Thread Bill Wichers
The cheapest protection would be Polyethylene sprinkler pipe. Better would be rigid pvc electrical conduit. Either will be much cheaper than liquid tight pvc conduit. The sprinkler pipe would probably fight you and try to be coily, so I suspect the rigid pvc conduit would be a better option.

Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG

2015-02-21 Thread Mike Waters
I have never heard of anyone burying a BOG. The radials could be buried an inch or so, but a BOG should lay on the ground or slightly above. 2 ft. is two feet too deep. About 200' is a common length for a BOG on 160. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 6:51 PM, James Wolf

Topband: Idaho on 160 m

2015-02-21 Thread Tod Olson
If you are a serious contest op you should not be reading this ‹ get back in the chair and work some more stations. I have been asked to operate 160m this evening by several Caribbean stations. Since they are all multi¹s they may have time to read this. I will make an effort to be on starting at

Re: Topband: Idaho on 160 m

2015-02-21 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Worked a few guys with the 80 dipole last night. CONDX did not seem great. I will try again tonight. Not that CO is rare but points are points! Mike W0MU On 2/21/2015 4:33 PM, Tod Olson wrote: If you are a serious contest op you should not be reading this ‹ get back in the chair and work

Re: Topband: Modeling a BOG

2015-02-21 Thread Mike Waters
Can you upload your patterns as GIF or PNG files somewhere, so that we all can see them? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:50 PM, James Wolf jbw...@comcast.net wrote: Mike, The reason the beverage wire in the model is 2 ft. below the surface is to have it away from the

Re: Topband: [Bulk] RX cables in woods

2015-02-21 Thread Grant Saviers
Rock ledges probably mean directional drilling would be prohibitively expensive. Even in soft soil it costs A LOT more than trenching. Same for a Ditch Witch over ledge even with carbide teeth, but you might get a lot of it underground.I put in 6000' of 1 water line (mostly PVC) to a

Re: Topband: Spot ti9/3z9dx 1844 cw up 1 to 2

2015-02-21 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 2/21/2015 9:40 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: Worked fairly easily. Worked them with one call, only running 200 watts. Out of 10 band slots, this one was the easiest. Just like with K1N. Can a threepeat be possible with PQ0T? This has been another great DXPedition. Also worked 6Y2T and

Topband: RX cables in woods

2015-02-21 Thread Greg Zenger
This spring I plan to augment my station receive capabilities by installing a array of receive verticals (DXE 8 circle). I live in New England on a glacial moraine; the soil is very rocky and uneven in the woods that surround my station. I have found a plateu large enough to place my array,

Re: Topband: RX cables in woods

2015-02-21 Thread Mike Waters
I have some RG-6 coax inside some 1/2 PVC rigid conduit laying on the ground. It feeds my 160m inverted-L ~250' behind my house. But whenever a heavy tractor or truck drives over it, it breaks the conduit in two and damages the coax. If you are speaking of Sealtite flexible conduit, that'll

Re: Topband: Idaho on 160 m --- DRAT !!

2015-02-21 Thread Tod Olson
* Dreadful error MST is - 7 hours from UTC, not -6 hours MDT has caused a mental problem I guess Anyway 0500 UTC is the correct time for 10 PM Mountain Standard Time. Tod, K0TO On 2/21/15, 4:33 PM, Tod Olson t...@k0to.us wrote: I will make an effort to be on starting at 10 PM MST [

Re: Topband: New Function on Low Band Chat

2015-02-21 Thread George
Nifty feature, Alain Congrats Warrants another donation. 73 George W8UVZ -Original Message- From: Bill Tippett Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:17 AM To: topband Subject: Topband: New Function on Low Band Chat Thanks to Alain ON4KST: Sunrise/Sunset now available after a

Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M

2015-02-21 Thread Charlie Cunningham
The joys of Internet DXing!! Everybody that comes on is swamped by packet-rats!! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Grimm Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:37 AM To: GALE STEWARD Cc: topband@contesting.com

Topband: New Function on Low Band Chat

2015-02-21 Thread Bill Tippett
Thanks to Alain ON4KST: Sunrise/Sunset now available after a new login (click on the user locator) or dubble click inside the Dx map *Example: * *SERVER* message (W4ZV) The RA4LW locator is LO44WI (QRB 8952 km, QTF 27°). Sunrise: 03.52 Sunset: 13.56 73, Bill W4ZV _