Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Mike Waters
Fred, those transformers are the wrong impedance ratio for WD1! They are for 420-450 ohm wire. WD-1 has a much lower impedance. 73, Mike W0BTU On Sat, May 9, 2020, 5:49 PM Fred Moeves wrote: > Thanks to everyone with some very good advice and good ideas > I am now looking for a good place to

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Fred Moeves
Mike , I think that WD-1 is 150 ohm someone on here posted that. So I am now looking over your.Chart of turns ratios paper..trying to understand it. I maybe in over my head on this stuff...not real sure how to read the chart. I'll have to do some more reading. Thanks Fred KB4QZH On

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread MU 4CX250B
I've also heard that the native impedance a twisted pair of WD1A/TT is about 150ohms. In my application, I use two parallel lengths of WD1A/TT, spaced about 4.5inches. Each twisted pair acts like a single conductor, and the Z of the two parallel lengths is about 450 ohms. I didn't know the

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Fred Moeves
Thanks to everyone with some very good advice and good ideas I am now looking for a good place to buy the WD1-TT. I would like to get some even if I don't use it for this Beverage. I found one place looked pretty good I will call them Monday. I am installing the antenna in a much wooded area so

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread donovanf
VE6WZ has some good ideas for a Beverage in dense woods here www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueHgrszoq6A 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Fred Moeves" To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:49:36 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage-

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Mike Waters
Exactly, Dave! It's right in my Beverage antenna page ("145 ohms"), along with several different calculators. :-) And all WD-1* wire is *not* the same. Back when I used to sell Beverage transformers, people would send me short samples to measure before I wound them. You have to accurately measure

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/9/2020 6:46 PM, MU 4CX250B wrote: I've also heard that the native impedance a twisted pair of WD1A/TT is about 150ohms. I think you mean Zo, characteristic impedance. I haven't had any to measure, but that sounds high for any form of twisted pair. Twisted shielded pair audio cable is

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage

2020-05-09 Thread fmoeves
Gabriel, Thank you for the links. I will definitely check them out. The long insulator screws in the picture looks interesting. 73 Fred KB4QZH  Original message From: Gabriel - EA6VQ via Topband Date: 5/9/20 3:55 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Fred Moeves' , topband@contesting.com

Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage

2020-05-09 Thread Ned Mountain
Another option to consider for reversible Beverage. Single RG-6 as the antenna element. https://www.unifiedmicro.com/bevflex4x.html Ned WC4X -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+ned.mountain=mindspring@contesting.com] On Behalf Of topband-requ...@contesting.com

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Andrey Fedorishchev
It will. Confirmed in a number of installation. YMMV as always. Limiting factor is losses in this and similar lines. Affects only reverse/away direction signal level. Depends on particular Insulation properties. Another issue is matching. Not all of WD1 is made to the same specification and has

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread rgarrett5
Yes, WD-1 can be used specifically with KD9SV's products available from DX Engineering. DXE also offers a FB quality two conductor alternative to WD-1. 73, Bob K3UL -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of Mikek Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 1:15 PM To: topband@contesting.com

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread MU 4CX250B
I use two lengths of WD1/TT (twisted pair), with the strands in each length twisted together. The two lengths are parallel, separated by about 4.5 inches, and threaded loosely through a hole in a ceramic insulator screwed into opposing faces of wood 4x4s. The 4x4s stick out of the ground seven

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage- KF4ITA Mikek

2020-05-09 Thread Mikek
 That brings up the question, can you use a tightly coupled pair for a reversible Beverage? And would WD-1 wire work? http://www.signalcenter.com/commo/wire/wireinfo/wdwireinfo.html    Mikek  KF4ITA _ Searchable Archives:

Re: Topband: 2 wire reversible Beverage

2020-05-09 Thread Gabriel - EA6VQ via Topband
Hi Fred, Might be you can get some ideas from http://dxmaps.com/safontbeverage.html and http://dxmaps.com/safontbeverage2.html 73. Gabriel – EA6VQ -Mensaje original- De: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+ea6vq_ml=dxmaps@contesting.com] En nombre de Fred Moeves Enviado el: viernes,