Re: Topband: [bevantennas] Ground screen under beverage....

2020-10-01 Thread donovanf
Many years ago I was involved -- peripherally -- with very large phased arrays of Beverage antennas installed over very poorly conducting soil (almost solid rock) in which ground rods were completely impractical and ineffective. The design of these arrays predated the availability of general

Re: Topband: [bevantennas] Ground screen under beverage....

2020-10-01 Thread Mike Waters
Gentlemen, I am in full agreement with the many statements that Vic Misek's design (at least in the first edition of his book) is, uh, 'not the best', and a ground screen (or grounded wire) under a Beverage is 'mostly' *not* a good idea. Over 40 years ago I was going to built it, but W8JI himself

Re: Topband: [bevantennas] Ground screen under beverage....

2020-10-01 Thread Grant Saviers
Worse than "not the best" or "not a good idea" from prior experimentation. My two Beverages 6 feet up (10' total Z) over a 4 strand barb wire fence did not work - very poor directivity. One N-S and one E-W. Then some NEC2 modeling showed 6db directivity over 3 strands of barb wire. However,

Re: Topband: [bevantennas] Ground screen under beverage....

2020-10-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/1/2020 5:03 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: Worse than "not the best" or "not a good idea" from prior experimentation. And a clear indicator that whoever proposed it failed to learn how Beverages work! It all goes back to Mr. Beverage's original patent more than a century ago. Beverages