Re: Topband: Artificial Propagation...?

2012-03-11 Thread Arthur Delibert
As I remember the earlier project, it was an effort in the early or mid 1960s to create perpetual worldwide twilight by shooting millions of tiny copper needles into the upper atmosphere. I remember reading at the time that they became magnetized and stuck together for that reason. In any

Topband: How Good is Good Enough?

2012-03-11 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I have about 350 feet of quad-shield RG-6 going out to a receiving antenna hub which has a 20-db ARR preamp on the end of the line, followed by an 8-way relay switch. The feedline is lying on the ground, or more correctly on the stubble of a mowed hayfield. At the moment, it has only one BOG

Re: Topband: Artificial Propagation...?

2012-03-11 Thread John Kaufmann
Some of you may be thinking of Project West Ford, conducted in the early 1960's by MIT Lincoln Laboratory (where I work now). Many millions of tiny needles were launched into orbit to generate an artificial scattering medium above the earth for long range microwave communications. You must

Re: Topband: Artificial Propagation...?

2012-03-11 Thread Arthur Delibert
Thanks John. There's an interesting article about Project West Ford on Wikipedia, which describes the failed 1961 launch (the one I remember), and the successful 1963 launch. Apparently, radio astronomers and others (including the Soviets, of course) protested, and the project ultimately

Topband: Signal pickup mystery

2012-03-11 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Please pardon my repeating myself, but this thing has really got me buffaloed, and I've found that this is the place where the most knowledgeable people about this sort of thing hang out I am feeding DC down my feedline to the ARR preamp in the RX antenna hub, and also to the relays and the

Topband: Signal pickup mystery

2012-03-11 Thread Lee K7TJR
Hello Pete, Now here's the mysterious part. If I remove the DC power from the preamp, the 20-meter signals drop from S9 to barely audible. This is also noticeable, but just barely, on the 1550 KHz signal. Is it possible that the preamp, which is between the feedline and the primary of the

Re: Topband: Signal pickup mystery

2012-03-11 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Replies interspersed - thanks for all the ideas. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and

Re: Topband: How Good is Good Enough?

2012-03-11 Thread Mike Waters
How does the signal level from a BOG compare to the signal level from an elevated Beverage? I'm sure the output from a BOG is less. But how much less? Enough to require a remote preamp? I've always wondered. I --and many others-- have found a remote preamp on an *elevated* Beverage to be totally

Re: Topband: How Good is Good Enough?

2012-03-11 Thread ZR
Ive said several times that my 500' BOG's dont need a preamp. The signal level may be 5-6dB lower than the elevated ones in the same direction but thats more likely due to signal angle. One or two on here keep claiming 500' wont work and I say it all depends upon the ground.mine is about

Re: Topband: How Good is Good Enough?

2012-03-11 Thread ZR
Very possible on your farm Mike, time to experiment I'd say. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Topband: How Good is Good Enough? Thanks, Carl! Seems to me that

Topband: N3BB's Novel

2012-03-11 Thread Jim Brown
I'd bet that a lot of folks who hang out here know Jim George, N3BB.I've just finished reading his novel, and it's a real page-turner. It's the story of a guy sort of like a lot of us techie types growing up in a town in West Virginia in the 50s. The protagonist discovers ham radio, gets