Topband: RI1ANF

2012-05-31 Thread Gary Smith
What a surprise to hear Antarctica last night. Apparently the band 
has some nice unexpected gems to be found on it here in Connecticut.

Gary
KA1J
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Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread Larry Emery
According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in business 
for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture!

73
Larry K1UO 

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Re: Topband: RI1ANF

2012-05-31 Thread Gary Smith
Thanks to some off list replies My logging program (which means me as 
well) is apparently incorrect and this is a south shetland Q. Though 
I liked the idea of it being Antarctica as my father as a young ham 
made contact with Byrds expedition. However, I also need South 
Shetlands on TB so I'm still most happy.

Thank you for the correction!

Gary
KA1J




 What a surprise to hear Antarctica last night. Apparently the band 
 has some nice unexpected gems to be found on it here in Connecticut.
 
 Gary
 KA1J
 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
 



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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread mike
It seems strange to me that any company would advertise having legal
troubles. Interesting strategy, to say the least.

Good for them! Glad to see things back in action. Always thought they
had good stuff.

Mike N1TA


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS
From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, May 31, 2012 8:05 am
To: Larry Emery k...@uninet.net
Cc: topband@contesting.com

They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page
yet.

73, Guy

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emery k...@uninet.net wrote:

 According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in
 business
 for good and taking orders! FB Guys.. Good luck in your venture!

 73
 Larry K1UO

 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

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UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread Anthony Scandurra
From the Hi-Z Antennas site...

*The Hi-Z 4, Hi-Z 8N, and the Hi-Z 8W products are being sold as permitted
under the terms of a*

*certain License Agreement among PDS Electronics, Inc. dba DX Engineering,
as the Licensor,*

*and Hi-Z Antennas and Lee Strahan, as the Licensees.*

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Scandurra k...@att.net wrote:

 In fact, they have changed it.

 And there are now some notes on the product pages indicating that they
 have a licensing agreement with PDS (aka DX Engineering).

 73, Tony


 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
 olin...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page yet.

 73, Guy

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emery k...@uninet.net wrote:

  According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in
  business
  for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture!
 
  73
  Larry K1UO
 
  ___
  UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
 
 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK



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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
They put that up during the day today.  73, Guy.

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Anthony Scandurra k...@att.net wrote:

 From the Hi-Z Antennas site...

 *The Hi-Z 4, Hi-Z 8N, and the Hi-Z 8W products are being sold as
 permitted under the terms of a*

 *certain License Agreement among PDS Electronics, Inc. dba DX
 Engineering, as the Licensor,*

 *and Hi-Z Antennas and Lee Strahan, as the Licensees.*

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Scandurra k...@att.net wrote:

 In fact, they have changed it.

 And there are now some notes on the product pages indicating that they
 have a licensing agreement with PDS (aka DX Engineering).

 73, Tony


 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
  wrote:

 They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page
 yet.

 73, Guy

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emery k...@uninet.net wrote:

  According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in
  business
  for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture!
 
  73
  Larry K1UO
 
  ___
  UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
 
 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK




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Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 113, Issue 45

2012-05-31 Thread wa3mej


RI1ANF is So. Shetland IS for sure and stated this a few times on other bands.  
I am not sure if this counts for Antartica or not ( I suspect not!).  I cant 
even find any evidence that Antarctica even has any presence (to mean a working 
ham station) on the continent. Sure would like to know a call or two so I could 
be on the look out for them 



Jim WA3MEJ 



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   2. HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS (Larry Emery) 
   3. Re: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS (Guy Olinger K2AV) 
   4. Re: RI1ANF (Gary Smith) 


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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 09:10:45 -0400 
From: Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com 
Subject: Topband: RI1ANF 
To: topband@contesting.com 
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What a surprise to hear Antarctica last night. Apparently the band 
has some nice unexpected gems to be found on it here in Connecticut. 

Gary 
KA1J 


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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:58:27 -0400 
From: Larry Emery k...@uninet.net 
Subject: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS 
To: topband@contesting.com 
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According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in business 
for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture! 

73 
Larry K1UO 



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Message: 3 
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:05:40 -0400 
From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net 
Subject: Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS 
To: Larry Emery k...@uninet.net 
Cc: topband@contesting.com 
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canckpc0qp3btxmcc7eqxzz7ncqrgyvpeickq2ld4suhxlw3...@mail.gmail.com 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 

They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page yet. 

73, Guy 

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emery k...@uninet.net wrote: 

 According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in 
 business 
 for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture! 
 
 73 
 Larry K1UO 
 
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:18:24 -0400 
From: Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com 
Subject: Re: Topband: RI1ANF 
To: Topband@contesting.com 
Message-ID: 4fc799d0.28320.5293...@gary.ka1j.com 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII 

Thanks to some off list replies My logging program (which means me as 
well) is apparently incorrect and this is a south shetland Q. Though 
I liked the idea of it being Antarctica as my father as a young ham 
made contact with Byrds expedition. However, I also need South 
Shetlands on TB so I'm still most happy. 

Thank you for the correction! 

Gary 
KA1J 




 What a surprise to hear Antarctica last night. Apparently the band 
 has some nice unexpected gems to be found on it here in Connecticut. 
 
 Gary 
 KA1J 
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Re: Topband: RI1ANF

2012-05-31 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Opps  qrz.com/db/ri1anf

Anyway Herb, that´s good that topbanders have RX antennas to the south :-)

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

-Mensaje original-
De: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
En nombre de Herb Schoenbohm
Enviado el: jueves, 31 de mayo de 2012 17:55
Para: g...@ka1j.com
CC: Topband@contesting.com
Asunto: Re: Topband: RI1ANF

You have me excited for a moment as I need Antarctica on 160. I have already
worked South Orkney, South Shetland, Falklands, Bouvet and Peter I on TB but
for some reason Antarctica has just not been there for me even though there
are always active hams there.  Maybe I worked some other operation there
years ago but never entered the call as a new onebut there must be some
operation on TB from Antarcticalike I mean just tie some insulated wire
on a snow cat and lay it on the snow. 
Drive north for a half a mile.and put in a 600 ohm non inductive
resistor and drive another 135 feet for a Beverage self termination without
a ground connection and you should be able to hear everything that comes on
the band from NA during the long periods of darkness when they go into real
winter.

Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ




5/31/2012 12:18 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
 Thanks to some off list replies My logging program (which means me as
 well) is apparently incorrect and this is a south shetland Q. Though I 
 liked the idea of it being Antarctica as my father as a young ham made 
 contact with Byrds expedition. However, I also need South Shetlands on 
 TB so I'm still most happy.

 Thank you for the correction!

 Gary
 KA1J




 What a surprise to hear Antarctica last night. Apparently the band 
 has some nice unexpected gems to be found on it here in Connecticut.

 Gary
 KA1J
 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK



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 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

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Re: Topband: RI1ANF

2012-05-31 Thread Jeff Woods
Here's an interesting story:

In the early 90's, I worked as a ship-board radio officer.  At one of the 
training conferences, I met a fellow RO who also worked at the McMurdo 
Antarctic base when he wasn't on ships.  During one of our (many and frequent) 
conversations after hours at the hotel bar, he mentioned an odd propagation 
mode at 5 kHz which only seemed to be present from pole-to-pole.  The physics 
of this propagation are still unclear to me, but the salient point is that he 
also described the antenna.  


It was a simple dipole, cut for resonance, and strung for miles along the 
icecap.  Ice is a good insulator, and the ice cap is thick enough to give a 
ground mounted dipole reasonable height even at VLF.  

At 160m, a dipole on the ice would act as though it were essentially in 
free-space.

Feel free to fact check me on this.  I was young.  We were sailors.  And we 
were drinking.  :-)  But it does bode well for helping Herb get his Antarctic 
merit badge some day.


-Jeff  W0ODS






 From: Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net
To: g...@ka1j.com 
Cc: Topband@contesting.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: RI1ANF
 
You have me excited for a moment as I need Antarctica on 160. I have 
already worked South Orkney, South Shetland, Falklands, Bouvet and Peter 
I on TB but for some reason Antarctica has just not been there for me 
even though there are always active hams there.  Maybe I worked some 
other operation there years ago but never entered the call as a new 
onebut there must be some operation on TB from Antarcticalike I 
mean just tie some insulated wire on a snow cat and lay it on the snow. 
Drive north for a half a mile.and put in a 600 ohm non inductive 
resistor and drive another 135 feet for a Beverage self termination 
without a ground connection and you should be able to hear everything 
that comes on the band from NA during the long periods of darkness when 
they go into real winter.

Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ




5/31/2012 12:18 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
 Thanks to some off list replies My logging program (which means me as
 well) is apparently incorrect and this is a south shetland Q. Though
 I liked the idea of it being Antarctica as my father as a young ham
 made contact with Byrds expedition. However, I also need South
 Shetlands on TB so I'm still most happy.

 Thank you for the correction!

 Gary
 KA1J




 What a surprise to hear Antarctica last night. Apparently the band
 has some nice unexpected gems to be found on it here in Connecticut.

 Gary
 KA1J
 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK



 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread chacuff
I truely hope they are licensed and continue to sell their own design. 
Because of all of this I have personally made it a point not to do business 
with PDS Electronics.  The owner has a history of this type of action.

Just a personal thing...

Cecil
K5DL
- Original Message - 
From: N1SR stefan.rodow...@verizon.net
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS


 You may have missed their notice that they now have a licencing
 agreement with PDS Electronics.

 Be interesting to see how the new design and pricing compare with the
 old and DX-Engineering's version.

 73
 Steve - N1SR

 On 5/31/2012 11:05, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page 
 yet.

 73, Guy

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emeryk...@uninet.net  wrote:

 According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in
 business
 for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture!

 73
 Larry K1UO

 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

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 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK



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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread W0UCE
Hi-Z is IN BUSINESS it is so simple to understand - why beat any reason or
announcements to death? 

Let sleeping dogs rest.



-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:54 PM
To: Anthony Scandurra
Cc: topband@contesting.com; Larry Emery
Subject: Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

They put that up during the day today.  73, Guy.

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Anthony Scandurra k...@att.net wrote:

 From the Hi-Z Antennas site...

 *The Hi-Z 4, Hi-Z 8N, and the Hi-Z 8W products are being sold as
 permitted under the terms of a*

 *certain License Agreement among PDS Electronics, Inc. dba DX
 Engineering, as the Licensor,*

 *and Hi-Z Antennas and Lee Strahan, as the Licensees.*

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Scandurra k...@att.net wrote:

 In fact, they have changed it.

 And there are now some notes on the product pages indicating that they
 have a licensing agreement with PDS (aka DX Engineering).

 73, Tony


 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
  wrote:

 They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page
 yet.

 73, Guy

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emery k...@uninet.net wrote:

  According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in
  business
  for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture!
 
  73
  Larry K1UO
 
  ___
  UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
 
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 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK




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Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 113, Issue 46

2012-05-31 Thread wa3mej


Jeff, 

  I believe the prop mode you are taking about it called ANTIPITAL 
PROPAGATION  it is like a focusing mirror.  There is a story about Ben 
Franklin in one of the early sessions of congress.  Being the scientist he was 
he found a spot in the capitol, a particular location where he would place is 
seat. He did this because he could hear his adversaries on the other side of 
the room plotting their strategies. Why did this happen well because the 
ceiling of the capitol was a giant dome and acted like a parabolic reflector 
and the audio bounced off the ceiling to his ears.  Dont believe me.. Go to 
Captian Georges resturant in Virginia beach and sit in one of their domed rooms 
out front and you can hear people talking on the other side of the room.  I 
think there is a more comon name for this mode but cant remember what is is 
now.. and there have been several masters research papers published about it.  
I have one of them published by Pipp et al but have never scanned it in .. it 
is somewhat large.  I intend to put it on my web sit at some point... a job for 
the future I guess. 



By the way this works for any place in the world .. supposedly.. take your 
lat/lon and subtract 180 deg from it and if it hits land your in luck .. look 
for stations from that area.  Hummm I wonder if the other name was Antipode 
focusing.. not sure anymore. 



GL 



Jim 





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Message: 9 
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:24:37 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Jeff Woods jmwoo...@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: Topband: RI1ANF 
To: Topband@contesting.com Topband@contesting.com 
Message-ID: 
1338503077.85738.yahoomail...@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 

Here's an interesting story: 

In the early 90's, I worked as a ship-board radio officer.? At one of the 
training conferences, I met a fellow RO who also worked at the McMurdo 
Antarctic base when he wasn't on ships.? During one of our (many and frequent) 
conversations after hours at the hotel bar, he mentioned an odd propagation 
mode at 5 kHz which only seemed to be present from pole-to-pole.? The physics 
of this propagation are still unclear to me, but the salient point is that he 
also described the antenna.? 


It was a simple dipole, cut for resonance, and strung for miles along the 
icecap.? Ice is a good insulator, and the ice cap is thick enough to give a 
ground mounted dipole reasonable height even at VLF.?? 

At 160m, a dipole on the ice would act as though it were essentially in 
free-space. 

Feel free to fact check me on this.? I was young.? We were sailors.? And we 
were drinking.? :-)? But it does bode well for helping Herb get his Antarctic 
merit badge some day. 


-Jeff? W0ODS 


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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Today's trial lawyers are not sleeping dogs but hungry predators.  You 
let them rest and you will be their next meal.  You see their ads on TV 
every hour willing to litigate on everything imaginable.  Who pays for 
this?  We do...the consumer gets intercoursed so trial lawyers get rich 
and famous. Now lets ratchet back to the 50's and 60's when two superb 
individuals, both were hams, and both were in the same business making 
broadcast transmitters and also selling systems to the military.  They 
were competitors, both in the Midwest with operations a few hundred 
miles apart. I knew both well (my office was just across the hall from 
one of them (Parker Gates) in Quincy, Illinois and the other Art Collins 
I new when I lived down the road from Cedar Rapids in Iowa City where I 
was first licensed in 1954.  On Saturday mornings Art Collins would open 
up his warehouse and sell first class comopnents to hams for next to 
nothing like 4CX250B's for a quarter if they had a bent fin or any other 
cosmetic imperfection.  They would never ever think of suing each other 
for patent infringement and only argued over a round of golf at the 
club house.

What ever happened to this wonderful Midwestern ethic of friendship and 
trust?  These were two giants in the radio industry who never fought 
brutal wars like Thomas Edison and Nicoli Tesla or engaged in the 
corporate warfare that caused Major Edwin Armstrong (inventor of FM 
Radio) to jump from a NYC high rise because David Sarnoff had political 
friends that for a time blocking his wonderful inventions.  The big 
three out of Detroit did the same thing to automotive genius Preston 
Tucker  using political power to squash a better idea in building cars.

Like they say when elephants fight the grass gets trampled and in our 
case we all lose and we all have to pay in some manner for this 
corporate warfare. What a shame.


Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ






On 5/31/2012 6:54 PM, W0UCE wrote:
 Hi-Z is IN BUSINESS it is so simple to understand - why beat any reason or
 announcements to death?

 Let sleeping dogs rest.



 -Original Message-
 From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
 On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:54 PM
 To: Anthony Scandurra
 Cc: topband@contesting.com; Larry Emery
 Subject: Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

 They put that up during the day today.  73, Guy.

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Anthony Scandurrak...@att.net  wrote:

  From the Hi-Z Antennas site...

 *The Hi-Z 4, Hi-Z 8N, and the Hi-Z 8W products are being sold as
 permitted under the terms of a*

 *certain License Agreement among PDS Electronics, Inc. dba DX
 Engineering, as the Licensor,*

 *and Hi-Z Antennas and Lee Strahan, as the Licensees.*

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Scandurrak...@att.net  wrote:

 In fact, they have changed it.

 And there are now some notes on the product pages indicating that they
 have a licensing agreement with PDS (aka DX Engineering).

 73, Tony


 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Guy Olinger K2AVolin...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 They have not removed the Legal Troubles banner from their web page
 yet.

 73, Guy

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Larry Emeryk...@uninet.net  wrote:

 According to the latest Newsletter dated May30 2012 Hi-Z is back in
 business
 for good and taking orders!   FB Guys..  Good luck in your venture!

 73
 Larry K1UO

 ___
 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK

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 UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


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Re: Topband: HI-Z BACK IN BUSINESS

2012-05-31 Thread Rick Karlquist
W0UCE wrote:
 Hi-Z is IN BUSINESS it is so simple to understand - why beat any reason or
 announcements to death?

 Let sleeping dogs rest.


Why?  Because they may be in business with 1 hand tied behind their
back.  Or they might have to raise prices to cover licensing.
Or they might be prevented from making product improvements.
Etc.

Rick N6RK

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Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 113, Issue 46

2012-05-31 Thread Rick Karlquist
wa3...@comcast.net wrote:

 I think there is a more comon name for
 this mode but cant remember what is is now.. and there have been several

Whispering gallery mode.  The classic whispering gallery room is
in the shape of an ellipse, where people at one focus can hear
the people at the other focus, but it is on only 1 hop.

Antipodal mode involves multiple hops.

Rick N6RK

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Re: Topband: RI1ANF

2012-05-31 Thread Tom Frenaye
At 06:24 PM 5/31/2012, Jeff Woods/W0ODS wrote:
Here's an interesting story:
In the early 90's, I worked as a ship-board radio officer.  At one of the 
training conferences, I met a fellow RO who also worked at the McMurdo 
Antarctic base when he wasn't on ships.  During one of our (many and frequent) 
conversations after hours at the hotel bar, he mentioned an odd propagation 
mode at 5 kHz which only seemed to be present from pole-to-pole.  The physics 
of this propagation are still unclear to me, but the salient point is that he 
also described the antenna.  
It was a simple dipole, cut for resonance, and strung for miles along the 
icecap.  Ice is a good insulator, and the ice cap is thick enough to give a 
ground mounted dipole reasonable height even at VLF.  
At 160m, a dipole on the ice would act as though it were essentially in 
free-space.
Feel free to fact check me on this.  I was young.  We were sailors.  And we 
were drinking.  :-)  But it does bode well for helping Herb get his Antarctic 
merit badge some day.


It was probably KC4AAD Siple Station

They had something like a 100kw SCR device transmitter on 15 khz talking to 
Roberville Quebec

Google is my friend
  http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/vlf-transmitter-siple-station-antarctica
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siple_Station

When I was at Palmer Station KC4AAC (just a bit south of the South Shetrlands 
on the Antarctic peninsula) I got to listen a lot on 160m but had no 
transmitter.   It was easy to hear ON4UN and some others because of the 
extremely low noise level.  I borrowed a 50w(?) ionospheric sounder (actually a 
modified DX-40 or DX-60) from a British science experiment on several nights 
that did cover 160m.  I don't think I ever worked anything other than South 
American stations.

  -- Tom/K1KI, x-KC4AAC opr 1976-77


e-mail: fren...@pcnet.comYCCC  -- http://www.yccc.org/
Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444 


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Re: Topband: Antarctica

2012-05-31 Thread donovanf
Worked  R1ANN
DXCCANTARCTICA (13)
Date2005-04-03
ModeCW (CW)
Band160M

73
Frank
W3LPL

 Original message 
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 21:44:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: w...@aol.com  
Subject: Topband: Antarctica  
To: topband@contesting.com

My 160m qsl from there was with EM1KA, opr UX1KA,  Sept 12  1995.  QTH was 
Vernadsky (ex Faraday) Base.   Bob W7LR 
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