Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-06-30 Thread mstangelo
I agree with Chuck, Laird, formerly Steward, is an established magnetics company. Jack Smith of Clifton labs uses them in some of this designs. http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/easy_broadband_transformer.htm You should evaluate them. 73, Mike N2MS - Original Message - From:

Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Jim WA9YSD
Any one out there using a Bird 43 for measuring out put power for QRP? I have a 250H element for HF.  Should I get the 50H element for HF? I have a Ten-Tec Omni VI Plus Power turned down to minimum. with the 250H slug I measure 5 watts, first mark from the bottom of scale.  Not very accurate or

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
There are lower wattage slugs but for a much higher frequency range. The 250H range is 2 to 30 mhz 160M is not quite covered but I think is ok. Bird make HF (H) elements at 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 250, 500, 1000, 2500, 5000 and 1 Watts. Finding the 5, 10, or 25 Watt elements new may be a

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Christensen
Adding to Joe's suggestion, NM3E and Chuck Martin RF Supply are good sources for used Bird and Coaxial Dynamics product. I've been pleased with both suppliers. http://www.nm3e.com/ http://www.chuckmartin.com/ Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Bob Eldridge
Hi Jim Many years ago at 4U1ITU I found the Bird 43 grossly underestimated the power output on 160, rather embarrassing at the temple of regulation. Bob VE7BS The 250H range is 2 to 30 mhz 160M is not quite covered but I think is ok. ___ UR RST IS

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
Bob, If you had a 250H that read grossly underestimated, then you had a bad element, the line section or the meter. The usable range in NOT a square-wave.   Price W0RI   Hi Jim Many years ago at 4U1ITU I found the Bird 43 grossly underestimated the power output on 160, rather embarrassing at

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Gerry Treas, K8GT
Try Webster Communications in Rochester, Michigan. This is the old Webster Band Spanner mobile antennas. He's still around, I saw him at Dayton this year. He sells Bird elements. Also, don't forget Coaxial Dynamics that sells a wattmeter that uses elements that are compatible with Bird

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread ZR
Simply going to the Bird site would have given you a glimpse at one of their manuals that has the correction factors needed. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Bob Eldridge eldri...@direct.ca To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Topband: QRP

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-06-30 Thread ZR
Evaluate against what? While Ive heard of Steward in the past I see nothing on Lairds site that gives me any information to base an evaluation on. Would you buy a complete unknown product of any kind without knowing all the specs? And not having to waste time filling out a form and not even

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Tom W8JI
Many years ago at 4U1ITU I found the Bird 43 grossly underestimated the power output on 160, rather embarrassing at the temple of regulation. If that was the case, they had a bad slug. The rating of the Bird 43 and standard slug is + or - 5% of full scale anywhere on the scale within the

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-06-30 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/30/2012 3:34 PM, ZR wrote: Evaluate against what? While Ive heard of Steward in the past I see nothing on Lairds site that gives me any information to base an evaluation on. I've had samples and a catalog from Stewart for years, but there's not nearly enough data there on which to base a

Re: Topband: QRP and Bird 43 Watt meter help

2012-06-30 Thread Greg
Or if you don't want to concern yourself with different slugs for different frequencies and power levels (other than UHF)...sell your Bird wattmeter and all the slugs and get a LP-100A which has NIST traceable calibration and typically reads +/- 3% of the power reading from 1 W to 3000W and

Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-06-30 Thread Lee K7TJR
Evaluate against what? Hmm seems kind of a silly statement to me as a designer. Evaluation is the job of component engineering in most companies. They make sure that the components conform to the specification data sheets provided or not by the suppliers. Just so you always purchase the

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-06-30 Thread N4IS
I have found an off brand ferrite to perform well beyond my expectations Control the quality of any product is expensive but it can assure that every single core has the same specification range. Narrow the range higher the price. When the specification is not clear and the product has half the